Gladiator
PMA Member
Mikey, Mikey!!
Come on now....the worst?? There's got to be something out there....like scent free socks or underwear or something...
To each his own...I'm a believer; obviously, others aren't...
Mikey, Mikey!!
Come on now....the worst?? There's got to be something out there....like scent free socks or underwear or something...
To each his own...I'm a believer; obviously, others aren't...
deeraddict
PMA Member
Hum.. I have shot these for a couple years know with great success. Blown right through the shoulders and rib bones on a couple does and a buck. Have yet to have any trouble with any of these. As many said to each their own.
Sticks
PMA Member
everybody here has there own pref. i have shot g5's montec for about 4 yrs or so now and last year i made the mistake of trying the rage b/c of all the hype. opening night could of had a triple.
well start with the 1st shot opening night. doe broad side 8 yds. thwack hits the shoulder blade and falls out. 311 fps and it couldnt penetrate a shoulder blade.
2nd shot blade open prematurely, buzzzzz...sent it way off course.
3rd shot behind the shoulder on a doe, seen her run off with arrow barely in her. no blood found the arrow both blades broke off. cant even break through ribs.
that night went home put the montecs back on and will never switch. plan on getting g5's new montecs this year. those montecs will blow through anything.
oh and one more thing when you buy rage brand new check those rubber bands that hold the blades they are known to have dry rot right out of the pack. probably b/c they sit on the shelf forever...... haha jk rage guys but seriously some of the bands are dry rotted when you buy them which makes blades open before contact
well start with the 1st shot opening night. doe broad side 8 yds. thwack hits the shoulder blade and falls out. 311 fps and it couldnt penetrate a shoulder blade.
2nd shot blade open prematurely, buzzzzz...sent it way off course.
3rd shot behind the shoulder on a doe, seen her run off with arrow barely in her. no blood found the arrow both blades broke off. cant even break through ribs.
that night went home put the montecs back on and will never switch. plan on getting g5's new montecs this year. those montecs will blow through anything.
oh and one more thing when you buy rage brand new check those rubber bands that hold the blades they are known to have dry rot right out of the pack. probably b/c they sit on the shelf forever...... haha jk rage guys
but seriously some of the bands are dry rotted when you buy them which makes blades open before contact
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ironwood
Active Member
To each there own is right but if you trust and accept that those of us with these wild comments aren't just full of it why would you risk having a bad experience with the rage heads. Your luck with them could end with the buck of your dreams. Do you have room in your setup for error? I don't! I had a good buddy pound this into my head. I am learning. My experience with them was not quite as bad as the quote above. The four deer I killed with them had unbelievable holes in them but that is the end of my possitive comments.
Matt they really are the worst!
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SaskGuy
Active Member
Weird,..me too, and I am only shooting 60lbs on a 26" draw and it was a doe and a couple bucks, reasonably large in stature.
Like I said before, I could care less what others shoot. It'll always be a matter of opinion and some fact for results can and never will be the same, nothing in the world comes without flaws.
Ford Trucks for example Suck,.....the rod went in mine with 120,000 miles, well maintained, not driven hard. The slave cylinders in the cluthces wreaked..brutal parts, replaced a couple. Had a crack in the block, had antifreeze leaking into the oil..just a chunk of garbage. Anyone ever driven a Ford they swear by??? That's what I thought, some people love them because of good experiences, others hate them due to bad ones. Bows, broadheads, boots, optics..whatever else a guy can toss into this great debate can be argued and argued to death and never hacked out.
I gave up on preaching to others a long time ago and try to worry about myself. I will admit that i do get a bit tired of guys telling me what I should or shouldn't do in regards to my hunting. I'll be shooting rages this year, shoot what you want, I won't tell you why you shouldn't. I will also be getting to my spots in a Chevy Silverado..which by the way hasn't made me a super beilever in the past 20 months either.
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I've shot the Rage now for 3 years with awesome results. In my archery hunting life I have shot fixed blades to include Muzzy, G5 Montecs, NAP Thunderheads and Nitro, and other old fixed blades I can't recall the names. I have also experimented with mechs to include Vortex, G5 Tekans, NAP Spitfires and Rage.
Hands down the Rage is the best broadhead I have ever shot. It is accurate, durable, dependable and devastating.
Hands down the Rage is the best broadhead I have ever shot. It is accurate, durable, dependable and devastating.
dominator
New Member
hahaha. I hear ya, buddy.
deeraddict
PMA Member
I am not discounting anyones opinion or accounts of use first hand or otherwise at all, or trying to sway anyone. But I am taking my experiences and findings from the field into account. I ask then in your view, are those of us that have had good success and good experiences with them full of it??
I started off my archery hunting using Muzzy's with the direction of Meathunter. He swore by them. I respect his opinion and hold him in high reguard as a friend and fellow hunter. After shooting 3, yes 3 big bucks in 2 years and loosing all 3, I gave up on the muzzy's. Since then I have shot the Rocky Mtn Snypers and now the Rages, and I am very confident in my setup and have been a deer killing machine since the switch. Have I lost any deer since the switch 3 years ago, yes, but that was due to poor shot placement and rushing shots on a doe and a decent 8 point this last year. Is that making me jump ship from the heads, NO. I made mistakes that caused the 2 lost deer, not the heads, I know what I did. It very well may have been my form or setup that caused the lost deer with the muzzys too, but either way, I lost confidence and needed to a change. I found something else that works, and has given me great confidence. It really is to each his own. Go to any huntin expo and you could most likely find hundreds of opinions on what is they best type of gun, bullet, scope, range finder, broadhead, arrow, bow so on and so on and each person could probably give example after example of why their choice is better than yours or the next guys. Fact of the matter is, all of them are probably very effective tools in proper hands. Just my $.02 Sorry to get so long winded.
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jjohnson
Well-Known Member
I know of at least 10 deer that were shot and not recovered with the rage last year. Some were no doubt caused by bad shots but not all of them. I personally have never shot them.
I'm not bashing I just hate how people think they're the best thing since sliced bread.
Slick Tricks for me.
I'm not bashing I just hate how people think they're the best thing since sliced bread.
Slick Tricks for me.
sureshot
The Hunt Never Ends....
I know of 9 deer that were shot with Rages last year (by me), and the farthest I had to blood trail one was 80 yards. I haven't lost a deer since I switched to Rages. I could most likely do the same thing with a muzzy, slick trick, etc., but my confidence is high right now with Rages and i'll continue to use them.
JNRBRONC
Well-Known Member
Condense down all of the posts in this thread and it comes down to confidence in one's set up. I have yet to see confidence on sale in a bottle, but when I do, I'll be buying it. Until then, it will be packaged in with some of the components I select. Finding out which ones is the trick.
deeraddict
PMA Member
I agree completely. Confidence means everything to me, and your right can't buy it off the shelf.
Crimson Arrows
Well-Known Member
I agree with Sligh1 post but again, overall, CONFIDENCE is #1. I have taken three does with them but penetration was poor and I was shocked at the distance they went with well placed arrows. I shoot a fixed blade now because I can get them to fly as well as my mechanicals, and in earlier years I couldn't. I have worked on tuning more the past years and now have equal accuracy. I also LOVE shooting the same head that I hunt with and not practice heads or field tips. Close I agree...just not the same.
If they are accurate and sharp, they will kill fast. Sharp blades kill faster than big holes IMO, as more capillaries are severed and more hemorrhage occurs. My buddy and I discussed hole size versus blade sharpness and how the deer were dying faster with 1" fixed blades slick tricks than 2" rages we were using. Maybe we should have sharpened our rages so could be our fault. The only thing we could determine was blade sharpness being the #1 factor. I firmly believe in confidence in what you shoot and am not bashing Rage, just had experiences that made me realize that in time I would pay for it if I kept shooting them. JUST MO. There are no perfect heads, diets, workouts, cars etc, but if you have a bad experience, it will haunt you and steer your choices.
IMO, worth nothing by the way, if you can get accurate and sharp, a fixed blade is better, and I have shot alot of deer with rockets, grim reapers etc. LOVE EM for turkey though, but thats a different conversation
If they are accurate and sharp, they will kill fast. Sharp blades kill faster than big holes IMO, as more capillaries are severed and more hemorrhage occurs. My buddy and I discussed hole size versus blade sharpness and how the deer were dying faster with 1" fixed blades slick tricks than 2" rages we were using. Maybe we should have sharpened our rages so could be our fault. The only thing we could determine was blade sharpness being the #1 factor. I firmly believe in confidence in what you shoot and am not bashing Rage, just had experiences that made me realize that in time I would pay for it if I kept shooting them. JUST MO. There are no perfect heads, diets, workouts, cars etc, but if you have a bad experience, it will haunt you and steer your choices.
IMO, worth nothing by the way, if you can get accurate and sharp, a fixed blade is better, and I have shot alot of deer with rockets, grim reapers etc. LOVE EM for turkey though, but thats a different conversation
Liv4Rut
Active Member
I have shot many different heads over the years and finally came to the conclusion it doesn't matter what you shoot them with. Sharp, dull, expandable, fixed they all work if you hit them where you aim. The only two deer I have shot with a Rage were complete pass thrus and one went 5 yards, the other went 40 with a marginal shot. My uncle shot a nice buck one morning with a field point and he went 30 yards and piled up. Confidence is key in any situation. I have Rage in the quiver right now but its because I am too cheap to try something else. Maybe when they are gone I will try something new.
letemgrow
PMA Member
I was going to switch to Rage this year since everyone of my buddies that uses them has great success and the blood trail looks like someone completely gutted the deer and there is not much trailing needed. I shot slick tricks last year and my only problem with them is I have not had great blood on the shots. The one doe made it about 50 yards and it's a good thing cause the blood was spotty all the way to her. The slicks did punch clean through though and stuck in the dirt while taking out a shoulder blace so their penetration is unquestioned as far as I am concerned.
The Rage blood trails I could see from 20 yards away, buddies punch through shoulder blades and everyone I know swears by them. The new ones do not have rubberbands.
With any broadhead+confidence+good shot= dead deer tho.
The Rage blood trails I could see from 20 yards away, buddies punch through shoulder blades and everyone I know swears by them. The new ones do not have rubberbands.
With any broadhead+confidence+good shot= dead deer tho.
hillrunner
PMA Member
I bought a set of rage heads last year. I spent a lot of time shooting the practice head mixed in with my field tips. When season drew near I threw on the 3 heads I would be hunting with to give em each a try before heading out. 1 flew good and the other two opened on the way to the target. I thought I did something wrong so I tried again with the same basic results. After that I never felt comfortable hunting with them and probably never will.