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Response from Branstad....

THA4

A Few Steps Ahead Of You
Well, I submitted an email to the Branstad crew in regards to the hearsay that Terry is going to increase NR tags.

Here is what I wrote:

Please DO NOT Support the increase of Non-Resident deer hunters and allow NR Landowner unlimited access. I understand the immediate economic impact that could perhaps be associated with that, but in the long run, as a state, this decision will HURT us!! Supply and Demand is a simple concept and I ask that you apply that to our NR deer hunter quota. If you increase NR access, the demand will eventually go down, and our residents will be left with less and less land access. Thus elim
inating LOTS of business.
With the increase of popularity in whitetail hunting, and Iowa being known as the MECA of deer hunting, opening it up to more and more hunters would essentially be taking the tradition away from our own residents. Land access is already VERY difficult, and allowing more NR access will continually decrease the amount of ground we residents can hunt. It is already taking place, I can affirm that personally through my experiences. It is sad....

I currently have a Branstad 2010 Sign in my yard and I know there are MANY sportsmen and women out there who will hang their entire vote on this issue! I see the bigger picture and know there are many more issues we need Branstad's support on, especially after Culver has put us in a HUGE hole. BUT, this issue could make or break the election if all Iowa's sportsmen and women take action..... Seems like a hard pill to swallow, but Iowa's anglers and hunters are a HUGE group of people and having their full support is essential to the future of our state.

I want to encourage Iowan's to support Branstad on Nov. 2nd, but If the Gov.-to-be supports an increase in NR Hunters and wants to allow NR landowners endless access to their property, I will look like a fool.... That is NOT in the best interest of Iowa hunters.

Just please keep in mind, you support Iowans First and Foremost... NR Hunters do not support or vote for you. Please keep the tradition of the great outdoors here with our residents so our children might have the same opportunities we did as kids. We are headed down a slippery slope as far as land access is concerned and we need to right that ship. Please help reverse this trend.... PLEASE!

Most respectfully,

Thomas Allen
(phone # included)



Later that evening, my phone rang from a number I didn't recognize, and for some reason, I answered it.....



"Hi, this is Terry Branstad."

I was more than surprised, not to mention I had just submitted that email earlier that day. Talk about fast!

I am going to share with you exactly what I was told, but I ask that you read this in its entirety before you form an opinion.


I was very impressed with this whole conversation as Terry asked me to further explain my stance, and help him better understand why I felt the way I did. After I explained that resident hunters are struggling with land access as it is, and that an increase would likely make it that much more difficult to gain permission. I explained that with an increase in NR tags, there would also be an increase in leased properties by NRs, more outfitters would pop up, so on and so fourth, taking more land away from Iowans, and his response blew me away....

"Well, Thomas, I haven't thought about it that way.... that is very good to know...."

I also began to explain that more NRs leasing up and buying Iowa properties would also be counter-productive to Iowa's management as they would no longer allow access to those properties and those locations would become hotspots of high deer densities....

Same response....

He then explained to me that at this point he "would support a modest NR tag increase" and asked what I thought about that. I replied that I would not support that, but I was interested in what his definition of "MODEST" was. He replied with 1000-2000 NR tags statewide. He asked again if I would support that, I said NO.

NOW BEFORE YOU FREAK OUT, LET ME CONTINUE!

He also explained that he is concerned with the state's bottom line. As Gov. he will be responsible for many other areas other than JUST Iowa's deer hunting.... Like it or not, there are many MORE important issues, for example, if our kids can't afford to hunt in the first place who cares how many NRs hunt Iowa....?? He has to look at the state as a whole, not just from our perspective as hunters, therefore he is concerned with the bottom line. But the simple fact that he took the time to learn more about why this has become an issue speaks volumes to me!

It is undeniable that a NR tag increase will have a positive impact on many small towns, especially in southern Iowa. This is the time of year WHEN they make their money. While I feel the impact on these towns in regards to a tag increase will only be temporary and minimal at best, I can see his point of view. I do not agree with it, but I do understand where he is coming from....

I then talked to him about applying the supply and demand theory to this decision. Increasing the supply will eventually decrease the demand.... simple economics.... Once all these folks have hunted Iowa, the Novelty will wear off and many residents will have lost access and gave up hunting all together, having a negative impact on those local economies. I told him by keeping the Iowa tag a hot commodity we would ensure the business we are already receiving through this program. And I assured him I am in support of NR hunting, but it NEEDS to be managed. He agreed.


I then replied to him that it would be easier to swallow a 1000-2000 tag increase over doubling the current quota, but I reaffirmed that I would not support it. He assured me it would NOT be doubled.

I then brought up that once a change or increase is implemented it would open the door to further increases. That bothers me and many other Iowa sportsmen and women. He totally understood the sentiment and assured me that during his tenure, an additional increase would not take place. I know politicians have made this kind of promise before, i.e. Bush senior with "Read My Lips, NO NEW TAXES" But in this case, I firmly believe he would stand by his word.

I believe he KNOWS the value of our outdoor heritage and wants to maintain the great thing we already have here in Iowa. But from his perspective, he also wants to follow through with his campaign promises. i.e. 200,000 jobs, reduce debt, and so much more. this would be a way to better Iowa's economy..... small but effective, economically speaking. I still believe it would be temporary and he knows exactly how I feel..... I made that perfectly clear! :D

Those of you who don't like him and feel we could do better, let me ask you this: who were you expecting? Uncle Ted? a former Conservation Officer? I watched the debates and felt like he did a great job.... He is NOT the prez of the NRA but I feel with his experience, resume, and connection to Iowa Sportsmen and women, he IS the best man for the job.....

His son hunts often, from what he says, and his own son doesnt want to see a NR tag increase. SO he knows this is an issue. He wants to put Iowans first and I believe he will.

One thing you also NEED to keep in mind. Once elected (which it will not be a close race) he is NOT going to automatically INCREASE the tags... it doesn't work that way.... That amendment would have to be approved and pass both state assemblies, and we would have ample time to act and encourage him to re-evaluate his position. He said he would support the idea.... meaning there is A LOT of room for us Iowa Whitetail'r's to have an impact and help educate him on the issues!

I'm going to get on my soap box again here, so bear with me... :drink1:

If you are basing your entire vote on this issue, you need to better educate yourselves on the entire platform of issues.... sac up, learn exactly what he stands for, and know what/who you are voting for, inside and out! If you don't agree with Branstad, don't vote for him!! but if deer hunting is the only reason for a 'yea' or 'nay', I take issue with that. It is our duty as Iowans and Americans to show up at the poles ON November 2nd.... but to also be educated on why we are voting as we will.

If you think Chester will serve our interests best, you have another thing coming.... from what I hear (very reliable sources) he will support a NR tag increase by double this next term..... if elected consider that done!... so if you support him, you support a 6,000 NR tag increase... plain and simple... better think about that when voting.

Bottom line here folks, I made an effort to contact him and he took the time to hear me out, that meant more to me than I can explain. he IS listening and if we all take a few minutes and send our thoughts to Branstad and his staff, they will take note. We can help him better understand why it is in our best interest to NOT increase NR tags...


He is listening, we can have an impact.... send an email today, you WILL be heard...

http://governorbranstad2010.com/contact-us/

Please take the time, and BE RESPECTFUL, you get much more done by being cool-headed about it!
 
Thanks for taking the time to fill us in on that Thomas. He is the best guy for the job.

If anyone is going to be a one issue voter, this is certainly not the issue.
 
That is pretty cool that he called you personally. I don't support the increase but I think that he is looking at the big picture, which is more important to me.
 
Well said Thomas.. Of all the people that he could have called and personally talked to, I'm glad he called someone that has a lot of experience with interviewing and talking to people about these things. It's good to see that he is looking at all perspectives...
I guess I don't really know how NR tags work, but, they are in zones, correct? Are they looking to increase tags in just certain zones/counties, or is it statewide?
 
Thomas, not that this post is going to sway my "already made decision" (I'm sending Chet a box to pack, and Terry my vote), but I think it's a stand-up thing that you took the initiative to send your letter and it's even better that Terry himself called you to discuss the topic.

I know you andChet could destroy some buffets together, but I highly doubt Chet would've taken the time to return a call regarding the same situation.

Thanks Thomas, for being a voice, and thanks for sharing. I'm glad it was heard.
:way:
 
I wish he'd call me. I would ask him if he would support a license fee increase instead of an increase in the NR quota as a way to generate a little revenue. I'm still afraid that once the quota door is opened it will stay open.............
 
I do believe that before you decide that Chet would double the NR lic. you would send him an email and see what he says. I also have doubts about reliable sources. If he is such an outdoorsman why isn't he backing the land legacy vote? Afraid he will lose the Farm Bureau endorsement?
 
I have sent an e-mail also.In my e-mail I stated that in increase in tags isn't the only way to improve the bottom line.An increase in lisence and deer tag prices would accomplish that better.I for one would prefer paying $50 for a resident deer tag over an increase in NR tags.And if the NRs want to hunt here that bad they probably would pay $600 for a tag as easy as $500.
But after reading through Thomas's post and Brandstad's reply I have reconsidered my thoughts.(not that I support a tag increase at all)I don't think a price increase would accomplish the same thing he thinks an increase in NR tags would.It wouldn't do anything extra for the communities.It would allow the same amout of people to visit Iowa but not spend more money in the struggling communities.
An increase of tag number would allow more people to spend their money here.Which may outweigh a 20%-50% increase in tag fees.
I hate the thought of more NRs but I still think Brandstad is the best man for the job and the economy of the state.The tag agenda is probably very low on the list of important issues.
 
So it would seem that internet hear-say had some teeth to it. Culver stood up to the special interest groups that wanted rifle seasons, and more NR tags. If Brandstad was in office in 2009; it sounds like we would already be looking at different deer hunting quotas. I've already voted, and i might add i'm comfortable with my vote. Tom; you go from don't accuse Brandstad until you have the facts; to starting a rumor of your own about Culver. He will double the NR tags from a (very reliable source). Give me a break! Why the ## didn't Culver do it in the last legislation if that was the case. God knows Iowa needs the money.
 
I wanna know who logged in as THA4......

very well put and a lot of effort on your part T. Thanks for the info.
 
Cedar,
If it does not get out of committee for a vote how can Branstad or Culver do
anything anyway. If we keep telling our constituents how we feel and they vote
against it he will never get a chance to sign it into law.

Iowa may need the money but taking away land from our kids is not the way IMO.
 
I do believe that before you decide that Chet would double the NR lic. you would send him an email and see what he says. I also have doubts about reliable sources. If he is such an outdoorsman why isn't he backing the land legacy vote? Afraid he will lose the Farm Bureau endorsement?

Good point Gene. I would also like to see where Chet would stand on this issue.
 
I wish he'd call me. I would ask him if he would support a license fee increase instead of an increase in the NR quota as a way to generate a little revenue. I'm still afraid that once the quota door is opened it will stay open.............
I too would be all about a fee increase. And, I too am afraid of the door being opened. Well put. :way:
 
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That is a very interesting read, and I applaud the efforts that you have made. A modest NR tag increase may the answer, tough to swallow for some, but believe me, for the first time I see NR and Residents working together on a solution to a problem.



Personally, and I know that I am biased, I would like to see the following
6000 NR tags
&
2000 NR landowner tags (earn-a-buck) if the zone has a high deer population.... with an incentive to allow residents to hunt deer on the property and keep the population in check.

(Note: Iowa residents are hunting my farm this year, so in my case the limitation of access is not an issue)
 
Haha, I'm in the same boat as ElkHunter, I didn't even get an e-mail resonse. I explained the situation very similiar as T. I do think that Branstad would side with IA hunters more than Chet. Sounds like either way the NR tags will be increased, unfortunately. Brandstad resonding to T made it seem like he hadn't put much though into the decision to increase NR tags either, seemed more like he just saw it as more income. Anyways, I'm a little dissapointed, but I believe Brandstad will do a better job than Culver.
I feel like a lot of people just see the high deer numbers as a problem, so they then want the number of tags increased. What they don't realize is that the majority of places with high deer populations are land that is leased or owned by hunters/people that hunt it themselves and only let a couple other people hunt it if any at all. Also all the suburbs and large cities in the state have high number, that's because those areas can't be hunted with guns, and hunters have to apply for a city tag to hunt there. The average person doesn't fully understand the issue.
 
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