Iowa_Buckeye
Active Member
Concealed or not, my handguns smell like Hoppe's powder solvent and gun oil. Heck, I can even smell them! I don't want them anywhere near me when I'm in my treestand!!!
nannyslayer
New Member
So Thomas, your saying you'll be packin a .45 to the stand with you this bow season?
150 Class
Well-Known Member
I am going to have to agree with Timekiller on this one. The right to carry already exists (conceal or not concealed). A conceal carry law already exists too. All that changed was how the law on how a conceal carry "shall" be issued.
I'll also say that all of us should promote "some" laws that make is easier for enforcement, all be it "before" the crime is committed. Unless we could have an enforcement officer follow all of us one on one to babysit us 24/7 to keep us compliant, we need some. I agree those making the laws go overboard in some cases. We all see abuse of laws or loopholes. I am one of the people who pushed to do away with the "temptation tag". If you know what I am talking about, you know the tag but you also know it was against the law to use it how so many people did. There are many other examples in and out of the hunting arena.
I wonder how these individuals would feel about this discussion.
"(CNN) -- Sheriff's deputies were investigating the killings of five hunters Sunday in northwestern Wisconsin, apparently sparked by a hunting dispute that turned violent.
Three others were wounded, said Julie Veness, an emergency medical technician in Exeland, Wisconsin.
Saturday was the opening of the nine-day deer season, and the shooting appeared to stem from a dispute over land in the heavily wooded area, Veness said.
"Apparently, the person was asked to leave and get out of his deer stand, and he didn't take it very well and he fired away at them," she said.
A state police official said a man wanted in connection with the shootings has been arrested, but no details were immediately available. The Sawyer County Sheriff's Department, which is investigating the killings, had no comment.
Jennifer Greshowak, spokeswoman for Lakeview Medical Center in Rice Lake, said three wounded men from the same hunting party were brought to that facility after suffering gunshot wounds. One of the three was transferred to a hospital in nearby Marshfield, she said.
The other two -- identified by relatives as Denny Drew and Lauren Hasebeck -- were recovering from surgery at Lakeview. Drew was in serious condition, while Hesebeck was listed in fair condition, their families said in a statement issued Sunday night.
"Our families certainly appreciate the thoughts and prayers of this close-knit community, and encourage you to think and pray for the other families involved," the statement said.
Veness said the killings have shocked Exeland, a village of 219 people about 135 miles northeast of Minneapolis.
"It just doesn't happen in this neck of the woods," she said. "We don't expect any of this to happen." "
"(CNN) -- Sheriff's deputies were investigating the killings of five hunters Sunday in northwestern Wisconsin, apparently sparked by a hunting dispute that turned violent.
Three others were wounded, said Julie Veness, an emergency medical technician in Exeland, Wisconsin.
Saturday was the opening of the nine-day deer season, and the shooting appeared to stem from a dispute over land in the heavily wooded area, Veness said.
"Apparently, the person was asked to leave and get out of his deer stand, and he didn't take it very well and he fired away at them," she said.
A state police official said a man wanted in connection with the shootings has been arrested, but no details were immediately available. The Sawyer County Sheriff's Department, which is investigating the killings, had no comment.
Jennifer Greshowak, spokeswoman for Lakeview Medical Center in Rice Lake, said three wounded men from the same hunting party were brought to that facility after suffering gunshot wounds. One of the three was transferred to a hospital in nearby Marshfield, she said.
The other two -- identified by relatives as Denny Drew and Lauren Hasebeck -- were recovering from surgery at Lakeview. Drew was in serious condition, while Hesebeck was listed in fair condition, their families said in a statement issued Sunday night.
"Our families certainly appreciate the thoughts and prayers of this close-knit community, and encourage you to think and pray for the other families involved," the statement said.
Veness said the killings have shocked Exeland, a village of 219 people about 135 miles northeast of Minneapolis.
"It just doesn't happen in this neck of the woods," she said. "We don't expect any of this to happen." "
I have to agree this was certainly not a concealed weapon issue at all. I have hunted alone in all kinds of seasons and with all kinds of weapons and have honestly never really been so concerned about my personal safety that any kind of a hand gun would have made any difference, with one exception. When I was bear hunting both with a muzzleloader and with a primitive bow, I did carry my old Ruger .357. It just made me feel a little better about being 15 feet up a tree 30 feet from a pile of bait and knowing that a black bear could be in the stand with me before I could finish farting if I made a poor shot. While there might be many justifications to carry a concealed weapon I don't believe there are really any for it while bow hunting in Iowa, except that "I can because I have a permit to do it".
hillrunner
PMA Member
I really don't care one way or another whether or not we can carry a pistol while bow hunting.
I will say that I can think of a lot of things that present real danger in my life. Since I I cant recall one single incident of a hunter becoming wounded or attacked while walking to his stand in Iowa, getting attacked by anything while bow hunting isn't even on the radar screen.
I will say that I can think of a lot of things that present real danger in my life. Since I I cant recall one single incident of a hunter becoming wounded or attacked while walking to his stand in Iowa, getting attacked by anything while bow hunting isn't even on the radar screen.
Be sure to get your facts straight.
Sawyer County Chief Deputy Tim Zeigle
Zeigle said the suspect was "chasing after them and killing them, with a SKS 7.62 mm semiautomatic rifle, a common hunting weapon."
"About 20 shots were fired but it was unclear if any of the hunters had fired at the suspect or who might have shot first, Zeigle said."
"There was just one gun among the eight people killed or wounded, he said."
"The dead included a teenage boy and a woman, and a father and son, Zeigle said. Some of the victims were shot more than once. All five were from the Rice Lake area, about 15 miles southwest of Birchwood in northwestern Wisconsin, he said."
"Authorities found two bodies near each other and the others were scattered over 100 yards."
Sawyer County Chief Deputy Tim Zeigle
Zeigle said the suspect was "chasing after them and killing them, with a SKS 7.62 mm semiautomatic rifle, a common hunting weapon."
"About 20 shots were fired but it was unclear if any of the hunters had fired at the suspect or who might have shot first, Zeigle said."
"There was just one gun among the eight people killed or wounded, he said."
"The dead included a teenage boy and a woman, and a father and son, Zeigle said. Some of the victims were shot more than once. All five were from the Rice Lake area, about 15 miles southwest of Birchwood in northwestern Wisconsin, he said."
"Authorities found two bodies near each other and the others were scattered over 100 yards."
timekiller
No, you can't pet him.
Here's another fact. This was a mass murder where several of the victims were ambushed by a gunman armed with a 7.62 high capacity rifle. The victims were at an enormous tactical disadvantage, and at least one of them was armed with a rifle. I don't think a handgun would have been much help. I'd bet against Wild Bill Hickok in that situation.
Thinkin Rut
PMA Member
I can go sit on private property in a tree stand anytime of the year in full camo with my .270 in hand and .45 on my side, .32 in my boot and it is perfectly legal...why should it change if you have a bow and tag in hand? Would it be illegal if you also had a bow without a tag? Would it be illegal to have a bow tag in your fanny pack with no bow in hand, hunting coyotes with a gun? The point being is the opportunity is there for a poacher to poach no matter what the law states so don't gouge into my freedoms because of a few bad apples.