shackdaddy
New Member
i dont understand why people are againest the use of scent control i completely agree on playing the wind and your right if you put yourself in the right spot you shouldnt be winded but why wouldnt you want extra help i just think you would want to do whatever it takes just to make sure you dont get winded
JNRBRONC
Well-Known Member
I guess it is to what extreme is one willing to go to for scent control and how much money they can afford to throw at it. Personally, I can't justify the scentlok suits that are activated carbon. I agree that they are good in theory but in reality one has to realize that these suits have a life expectancy before the carbon becomes saturated with odors. When does this occur? First season? Second? During storage in the off season? They can not be regenerated.
I've read stories of people who become vegetarians two months prior to season and they also do complete body hair removal (because hair traps odors). A little extreme for me...
Personally, I have some scent free body soap/shampoo and some scent free laundry detergent. I try to keep my hunting clothes in a container, putting them on outside the vehicle once I reach where I want to hunt. Then I try to hunt the wind the best I can.
I think that anyone who thinks that they are completely without scent is deluding themselves.
I've read stories of people who become vegetarians two months prior to season and they also do complete body hair removal (because hair traps odors). A little extreme for me...
Personally, I have some scent free body soap/shampoo and some scent free laundry detergent. I try to keep my hunting clothes in a container, putting them on outside the vehicle once I reach where I want to hunt. Then I try to hunt the wind the best I can.
I think that anyone who thinks that they are completely without scent is deluding themselves.
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i dont understand why people are againest the use of scent control i completely agree on playing the wind and your right if you put yourself in the right spot you shouldnt be winded but why wouldnt you want extra help i just think you would want to do whatever it takes just to make sure you dont get winded
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i dont understand why people are againest the use of scent control i completely agree on playing the wind and your right if you put yourself in the right spot you shouldnt be winded but why wouldnt you want extra help i just think you would want to do whatever it takes just to make sure you dont get winded
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Fishbonker
Life Member
I've worn the same non-cammo, liner carbon suit for about three seasons, I think, maybe 4. It probably became saturated the first year. I think it acts more as another layer for the scent to get through. More of a barrier than an absorber. I'm pretty sure I could use about any tight knit fabric of the same density and achive the same results. I figure if layering works to keep heat in, it works to keep scent in.
The 'Bonker
The 'Bonker
WKP - Todd
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"I dont understand why people are againest the use of scent control i completely agree on playing the wind and your right if you put yourself in the right spot you shouldnt be winded but why wouldnt you want extra help i just think you would want to do whatever it takes just to make sure you dont get winded"
I used Scent-Lok for years, bought all the sprays and did my very best to stay scent-free. Still got busted all the time, and actually I swear I got busted more than I do now not using half the crap.
Keep buying the stuff if you feel confident with it, but realize you can't buy success, you can only work for it. I continue to kill bigger deer every year, see bigger deer, and more deer because I put the time in, hunt in areas with big deer, and srraight-up work my arse off to get it done. Just the way any hunter does who consistantly kills mature bucks with a bow.
I used Scent-Lok for years, bought all the sprays and did my very best to stay scent-free. Still got busted all the time, and actually I swear I got busted more than I do now not using half the crap.
Keep buying the stuff if you feel confident with it, but realize you can't buy success, you can only work for it. I continue to kill bigger deer every year, see bigger deer, and more deer because I put the time in, hunt in areas with big deer, and srraight-up work my arse off to get it done. Just the way any hunter does who consistantly kills mature bucks with a bow.
Liv4Rut
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i dont understand why people are againest the use of scent control i completely agree on playing the wind and your right if you put yourself in the right spot you shouldnt be winded but why wouldnt you want extra help i just think you would want to do whatever it takes just to make sure you dont get winded.
I personally can't afford it, or justify spending money on something that doesn't work 100%. I'd rather spend my money on the leupold binoculars, lonewolf, sticks, backpack, gun or bow, boots, rain gear, warm clothes etc that I pack along that I know will work 100% to keep me on stand and be confident when the shot comes. So basically, I spend all my money on all the other gear to make sure it is top-notch.
I would buy all the scent control stuff if it was proven you could hunt any set up, no matter how bad and never get winded. If you still got to hunt the wind with the scent control stuff, I just don't see how it would help me in something I already do and am confident in. That's why I don't use it.
i dont understand why people are againest the use of scent control i completely agree on playing the wind and your right if you put yourself in the right spot you shouldnt be winded but why wouldnt you want extra help i just think you would want to do whatever it takes just to make sure you dont get winded.
I personally can't afford it, or justify spending money on something that doesn't work 100%. I'd rather spend my money on the leupold binoculars, lonewolf, sticks, backpack, gun or bow, boots, rain gear, warm clothes etc that I pack along that I know will work 100% to keep me on stand and be confident when the shot comes. So basically, I spend all my money on all the other gear to make sure it is top-notch.
I would buy all the scent control stuff if it was proven you could hunt any set up, no matter how bad and never get winded. If you still got to hunt the wind with the scent control stuff, I just don't see how it would help me in something I already do and am confident in. That's why I don't use it.
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Success comes with work on all the details, including your scent. I wouldnt spend all season finding a good spot, finding a buck, and then head to the timber smelling like gasoline; even if I knew I would most likely be downwind of all the deer. I hunt the same way even if I didnt do anything to control my scent, but unless you parachute into your stand and sit in a glass bubble, you are spooking deer. I just look at it as to the degree to which Im going to spook them. Less scent will disipate downwind quicker. Bacteria creates scent, so I figure it cant hurt to wash my arse before I head to the tree.
you can't buy success, you can only work for it.
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Success comes with work on all the details, including your scent. I wouldnt spend all season finding a good spot, finding a buck, and then head to the timber smelling like gasoline; even if I knew I would most likely be downwind of all the deer. I hunt the same way even if I didnt do anything to control my scent, but unless you parachute into your stand and sit in a glass bubble, you are spooking deer. I just look at it as to the degree to which Im going to spook them. Less scent will disipate downwind quicker. Bacteria creates scent, so I figure it cant hurt to wash my arse before I head to the tree.
Skully
PMA Member
I am very picky about scent control, but I have to be honest, I know hunters who kill big bucks with their bows who smoke in their stand while wearing their hunting clothes that hang on a coat hook in their kitchen!
I would never try it but I think everyone here knows at least one guy who killed a decent buck by just simply being "lucky". The location and wind direction were perfect and it just worked out. Getting out there during the prime time and hunting the wind will get you closer to more deer than any hyped up scent free clothing I.M.O.
Central Iowa
Life Member
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but unless you parachute into your stand and sit in a glass bubble, you are spooking deer.
[/ QUOTE ] Well put Fred. I want it to be as if I was never there in, and out without a trace. I'm there for a reason and will be back to those spots for the same reasons. Anything to minimize my disturbance is an advantage. Every detail adds to that advantage. I can't tell you how many times I have had mature animals do the unexpected and come from areas they shouldn't. I guess everyone has there own expectations and comfort levels. Like stated earlier do whatever makes you confident and allows for an enjoyable experience.
but unless you parachute into your stand and sit in a glass bubble, you are spooking deer.
[/ QUOTE ] Well put Fred. I want it to be as if I was never there in, and out without a trace. I'm there for a reason and will be back to those spots for the same reasons. Anything to minimize my disturbance is an advantage. Every detail adds to that advantage. I can't tell you how many times I have had mature animals do the unexpected and come from areas they shouldn't. I guess everyone has there own expectations and comfort levels. Like stated earlier do whatever makes you confident and allows for an enjoyable experience.
jkratz5
Well-Known Member
I guess the number one reason that I like to wear the suits scent-lok suits is because of the unexpected factor. Two of the last three bucks that I killed came from downwind and I never would have expected them to have approached from that direction. However, even with the scent blowing right to their nose I was able to drop them one shot at 8yds, the other at about 15yds (after a rattling sequence and you know damn well he circled the entire area). I guess that these two situations made me more of a believer than ever. I know that you can't eliminate all the scent and that the suits will wear out over time, but like I said before the confidence factor becomes a huge part of hunting after a while.
Kratz
Kratz
WKP - Todd
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I'm not saying I don't try to reduce my scent, because I do. I'm saying the carbon clothes, sprays, body-wipes, and all the other crap they are selling on the market is sold based on 100% speculation. None of these companies have proven the effectiveness of the products they are claiming "eliminate scent". All I want to see is scientific data, especially from the carbon suit manufactures.
I started hunting with a couple guys a few years ago that really changed my outlook on this topic. These guys have killed more B&C and P&Y bucks by bow & arrow than anyone I know. When guys like this talk, I listen. They happened to believe the Scent-Reduction business was a joke and I couldn't argue with them, and neither would you.
I started hunting with a couple guys a few years ago that really changed my outlook on this topic. These guys have killed more B&C and P&Y bucks by bow & arrow than anyone I know. When guys like this talk, I listen. They happened to believe the Scent-Reduction business was a joke and I couldn't argue with them, and neither would you.
SaskGuy
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i dont understand why people are againest the use of scent control i completely agree on playing the wind and your right if you put yourself in the right spot you shouldnt be winded but why wouldnt you want extra help i just think you would want to do whatever it takes just to make sure you dont get winded
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I hope I'm not considered one of the guys against it b/c I'm not. I simply say that I'm a play the wind guy b/c that is more suitable to me. I cannot afford a scent lok suit, I'm like Liv and have other things I need to spend my $$ on, I could have bought a suit this yr but decided on a v cam instead, if I had some extra loot to spend on one then I would I just have other things I need or would rather have.
I also try my best to minimize my scent while in the zone but you have to take what you can get. I get about 3hrs after work on evenings to go out in Oct. maybe 2 if I went home after work and showered up and all that stuff. Like I said, I take what i can get and for me right now that is playing the wind, a squirt of scent killer on my rubber boots and camo that sits in a garbage bag in the back of my truck. Not against it but what do you do??? you've got 6 of one half dozen of the other??
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i dont understand why people are againest the use of scent control i completely agree on playing the wind and your right if you put yourself in the right spot you shouldnt be winded but why wouldnt you want extra help i just think you would want to do whatever it takes just to make sure you dont get winded
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I hope I'm not considered one of the guys against it b/c I'm not. I simply say that I'm a play the wind guy b/c that is more suitable to me. I cannot afford a scent lok suit, I'm like Liv and have other things I need to spend my $$ on, I could have bought a suit this yr but decided on a v cam instead, if I had some extra loot to spend on one then I would I just have other things I need or would rather have.
I also try my best to minimize my scent while in the zone but you have to take what you can get. I get about 3hrs after work on evenings to go out in Oct. maybe 2 if I went home after work and showered up and all that stuff. Like I said, I take what i can get and for me right now that is playing the wind, a squirt of scent killer on my rubber boots and camo that sits in a garbage bag in the back of my truck. Not against it but what do you do??? you've got 6 of one half dozen of the other??
avidhunter
New Member
I feel that some people can get caught up in the whole scent control/elimination scene, to the point where they spend lots of cash each and every year, when plain ol' common sense would suffice. However, I also believe that if you have the money and the dedication to properly use these products, they can't hurt. Problems arise when people place too much stock in their scent control gear, and start making absurd choices for setups (i.e. upwind of deer).
I try to practice sound scent management myself (showering with odorless soap, washing gear in HS detergent, regularly spraying down in the field etc.), and I have had mixed results. I've had deer directly downwind of me that behaved as if there wasn't a human for miles around. Most of these deer were either wet behind the ears, or entirely preoccupied with the rut. They might have smelled me and didn't care that I was there, or perhaps they had not yet associated human scent with "danger".
I've also had deer wind me right away, regardless of the fact that I took several extra steps to control and minimize my scent.
As was said earlier, a good scent control regimen probably helps to give you those few extra seconds you need to adjust to a less than ideal hunting situation, but I firmly believe the only tried and true way to be sure you won't get busted is to mind the wind at all times.
I try to practice sound scent management myself (showering with odorless soap, washing gear in HS detergent, regularly spraying down in the field etc.), and I have had mixed results. I've had deer directly downwind of me that behaved as if there wasn't a human for miles around. Most of these deer were either wet behind the ears, or entirely preoccupied with the rut. They might have smelled me and didn't care that I was there, or perhaps they had not yet associated human scent with "danger".
I've also had deer wind me right away, regardless of the fact that I took several extra steps to control and minimize my scent.
As was said earlier, a good scent control regimen probably helps to give you those few extra seconds you need to adjust to a less than ideal hunting situation, but I firmly believe the only tried and true way to be sure you won't get busted is to mind the wind at all times.