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StucknAz

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Anyone running preorbital lures or other gland lures on their set ups? I’ve been eyeballing the raised hunting team and their setups along with their lures. Curious if anyone has run them and have any feedback.

Anyone have anything that’s really kicking butt on their setups?

Anyone running rub trees with licking branch attached? Like skips pine limb? Curious on ideal size, height, timing for implanting, scent vs no scent, disturbing bark to get to sap exposure.
 
I have rub posts that have scrape branches off of them. & I’ll add stuff like “the perfect height” grape vines or oak branches that hold leaves with zip ties & use weed whipper to open ground up before season. Works amazing. Now- as we learn more…. All the sudden with solar powered cameras- I leave some out year round. All summer or all year rather…. Deer still hit these scrape branches. Scent is for sure more than just a rutting activity. If u get the deer to start hitting them - which isn’t hard - they will continue to use it. Experiment a bit with height but as long as they can mash their faces in it…. Works amazing IMO.

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Oh Lord...., been doing both for 15 years or so.
Had NEVER heard of either being done. In print or on the Web.
Took several years before I had the gutts to post anything or discuss what I did.
I finally made a post with pics on an outdoor forum (don't remember which) and was ridiculed to the max.

Not saying I " invented" fake scrapes or rubbing poles but good chance I did.:rolleyes:

I made this brackett about 18 years ago. Set it up in a remote bedding area no one but me was allowed.
Had to get there by canoe.

Hmmm, thought i had a picture but cant find it. It was a bracket made of angle iron bolted to a tree. Was ugly/ loud as hell but damned if the bucks didn't make a good scrape under it.
this one I made about about 10/ 12 years ago and a good buddy of mine was gonna help me patent it. He spun his wheels and I lost interest.
Adjustable in branch height and solid.
Somehow, someone got a pic, and several years ago, I started seeing similar designs for sale.


As for rub trees, same. Found a cedar fence post in an old fence line in South Dakota while coyote hunting one winter years ago that was almost rubbed in 1/2 from bucks rubbing it. Asked the landowner if i could dig it up and take it. " Sure". I did, took it back to Mn, dug it in a major travel route and it never got touched. Lol.

But I new I could/ would make this technique work. Played around with it for several years untill I found the right tree species and BAMMMM,

Posted it on a forum and got criticized AGAIN for being stupid and a few years later...., it's all the rage. Lol.

So, in a nutshell, I as of (now) can confidently say, both of these techniques so common nowdays i started by flapping my mouth on outdoor forums years ago.

Believe it or not.




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I use a forehead gland scent on licking branches, other than that the only thing I use in a scrape is my own urine. One scrap I pissed in was absolutely torn to shreds the next morning!
 
I like making mock scrapes. I just ziptie a grape vine about waist/bellybutton height. Clear out the ground below it and scrap up the dirt. Usually works really well. I've never tried adding any scents to them, never felt I needed to. I'll take a leak in the scrap, I think that does seem to help.

Hopefully this year I can try the white pine rub pole
 
Sligh1 said:
I have rub posts that have scrape branches off of them. & I’ll add stuff like “the perfect height” grape vines or oak branches that hold leaves with zip ties & use weed whipper to open ground up before season. Works amazing. Now- as we learn more…. All the sudden with solar powered cameras- I leave some out year round. All summer or all year rather…. Deer still hit these scrape branches. Scent is for sure more than just a rutting activity. If u get the deer to start hitting them - which isn’t hard - they will continue to use it. Experiment a bit with height but as long as they can mash their faces in it…. Works amazing IMO.

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How are u attaching all the branches/limbs/vines to the post?
 
StucknAz said:
How are u attaching all the branches/limbs/vines to the post?
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Million ways to do this. In this one example…. I just screwed down a fairly thick hedge post branch across it. Then I used zip ties for the extending / hanging oak & grape vine mix. As long as it’s high enough and sturdy a buck can’t tear it off (oh well if u make a mistake- who cares) …. It’s just hanging lots of oak, grapevines, etc - big mess they can mash their face in…. That’s all I’ve done. Easy. The weed whipper I tear the soil up with it - use the cutting blade so it’s bare dirt. Agree with above- take a piss right in it.
 
I've been tinkering with different combos in different areas for several years, as I'm sure we all have. Big thing I've noticed is some areas deer are pickier than others. In a "not picky" deer area you can have great success with just about anything!!

In the picky areas, they will walk by just about everything, including a nice oak branch. The ONE that is the BEST I've observed and works even in the tough areas is a white pine branch. The softness and strong scent/sap really gets them going. There's a very obvious difference using white pine branches
 
Bucksnbears said:
Oh Lord...., been doing both for 15 years or so.
Had NEVER heard of either being done. In print or on the Web.
Took several years before I had the gutts to post anything or discuss what I did.
I finally made a post with pics on an outdoor forum (don't remember which) and was ridiculed to the max.

Not saying I " invented" fake scrapes or rubbing poles but good chance I did.:rolleyes:

I made this brackett about 18 years ago. Set it up in a remote bedding area no one but me was allowed.
Had to get there by canoe.

Hmmm, thought i had a picture but cant find it. It was a bracket made of angle iron bolted to a tree. Was ugly/ loud as hell but damned if the bucks didn't make a good scrape under it.
this one I made about about 10/ 12 years ago and a good buddy of mine was gonna help me patent it. He spun his wheels and I lost interest.
Adjustable in branch height and solid.
Somehow, someone got a pic, and several years ago, I started seeing similar designs for sale.


As for rub trees, same. Found a cedar fence post in an old fence line in South Dakota while coyote hunting one winter years ago that was almost rubbed in 1/2 from bucks rubbing it. Asked the landowner if i could dig it up and take it. " Sure". I did, took it back to Mn, dug it in a major travel route and it never got touched. Lol.

But I new I could/ would make this technique work. Played around with it for several years untill I found the right tree species and BAMMMM,

Posted it on a forum and got criticized AGAIN for being stupid and a few years later...., it's all the rage. Lol.

So, in a nutshell, I as of (now) can confidently say, both of these techniques so common nowdays i started by flapping my mouth on outdoor forums years ago.

Believe it or not.




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This made me chuckle. Between you and Jeff Sturgis not sure who invented mock scrapes. I'm willing to bet they have been used for longgggggg time. here is an article from 21 years ago..

www.espn.com

Rutology: Hunting the 'trickle rut'

Slow rut this year? Don't fret. Here are a few tricks to up your odds on a big whitetail!
www.espn.com www.espn.com
 
I started making mock scraps 35 years ago. I thought it would be a good idea to get buck pics to take inventory of a new farm I got permission to hunt in 1990. I used my first trail camera, a 35mm film, I bought and made the scrape in mid-June.

It was just a hunch due to heavy deer sign in a staging area. I couldn't wait to swap out the film and get it developed. The1st roll of 24 had 14 buck pics, 11 different bucks! A lot were in daylight and started getting pics soon after I hung the camera. I was hooked, but the downside was buying film and batteries all the time plus driving to get them developed. Thank goodness for digital :cool:
 
I have experimented with several different mock scrape scents over the years some with success others not so much. I tried something new for the first time today. I broke 2 red oak branches so that they are still attached to the tree hanging about waist height. I then applied some of smokey deer lures wicked wicks compound to the braches. The spot I attempted to make this scraps is between a thick fence row and a corn field. I did this instead of using a rope of vine for a more natural scrape in a tough spot. Never tired smokeys deer lures before but for the price I hope it works wonders lol.
 
miniwhitetails said:
This made me chuckle. Between you and Jeff Sturgis not sure who invented mock scrapes. I'm willing to bet they have been used for longgggggg time. here is an article from 21 years ago..

www.espn.com

Rutology: Hunting the 'trickle rut'

Slow rut this year? Don't fret. Here are a few tricks to up your odds on a big whitetail!
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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My writing skills aren't great, I'll admit.
I guess a should have been more elaborate.

What I "Meant" was, building a bracket for hanging a branch , hauling it in and fastening it to a tree in a desired location.
Sorry I got your panties in a wad.:rolleyes:

I made the angle iron bracket in 2006 I believe.

Any articles you can reference on anything similar prior too?
I'm all ears.;)
 
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Laugh your ass off all you want Mini..., purdy generic response..you seem like a know it all..,
Asking again, any references to my past question?
 
Sheesh dude. Was a generic response because I didn’t want this to go on…

But apparently you do. You are mad because I (we) couldn’t read your mind in that you “meant” you built some bracket yada yada. Congratulations man. Nope I can’t find any references.

Sorry you got ridiculed to the max when you FINALLY spilled the beans on scrapes..
I do admire your courage though after several years to finally post and share to the world of your discovery.

There you wanted clout, here it is. Thank you so much for inventing mock scrapes (brackets).
 
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