I'm not even really sure how big the one I'm after is, as I have not seen him this year. He won't score as much some of the other deer as he is only a mainframe 8 with a few kickers, but he had some really cool character last year. He exploded last year from a 2.5 to a 3.5 year old. I'm hoping he grows that much again. The 6x6 was only a 5x5 last year. Those g5's came out of no where this year. He did have really long beams though. He is a 4.5 year old as well. I'd rather give him one more year, as he has more potential than the mainframe 8 that I think I'm after.