Yes, as well all know most farmers have a strong dislike of deer. I just thought that thread hit if from a different angle this time, showing the loss of human life and well being, primarily, and financial loss through wrecked cars. Around here, most the farmers who own timber or rougher farms, do hunt deer. I've suggested on the farming forums that farmers could show some goodwill, and keep a few green spaces or put in a few pollinator patches here or there. It usually doesn't go over very well, at least by those who respond. They say "you first", to which I say, "already have." I don't think they need to build habitat to shelter deer, but it sure wouldn't hurt things if the ones who were able, showed a kinder, gentler side, as opposed to the typical "all ditch rats must die." Sometimes on these habitat/hunting forums I make a comment that the herds definitely need to be kept in check, or else the govt will do it for you. Typically someone will reply that the herd has never been too big, and that the best big buck hunting they ever had was when the herd was its biggest. Most farmers think the world revolves around them. Most hunters think the world revolves around them.