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Thoughts on deer prospects this year?

Thinkin Rut said:
Nothing will get rid of a non resident landowner more than waiting 5 or 6 years for a tag then finding out you've been bitch slapped by EHD. I guess only the fullness of time will tell how it plays out. Since EHD overwinters in cattle, that is where the effort should be. Breaking that cycle for a couple of years might be the ticket.
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The 5-6 year wait in for archery tag. The issue lies the guys who abuse the doe tag loop hole during gun season. Those guys own ground, and then every member of their family will put in to draw, children, wife’s, grandmas, you name it. One draws and the rest buy doe tags. The farmer Joe blow up the road that hates deer also has a buck tag that can magically get bought. Once we get all this nonsense fixed, I think we’ll see these non residents slow up in buying land at whore house prices because they in fact will have to wait to kill a buck for several years.
 
Funny how the non residents always get blamed. I’d bet NRs kill only a fraction of the total deer harvest per year and an even smaller percentage of trophy bucks in Iowa or any other state for that matter. Residents have no issues selling land to NRs for inflated prices. Residents feel comfortable leasing land to NRs at nose bleed rates. The counties love the taxes these NR landowners pay each year. The DNR has become dependent on all the high priced NR licenses and fees that NR hunters apply for each year. The hotels and restaurants greedily welcome the NR hunters who come and stay a week and dine in their establishments. After waiting 4 or 5 years to draw an archery tag, it would take 30 years to draw 6 tags. Do you really think an individual NR killing 5 or 6 bucks over a 30 year period is what has caused the decline of buck age structure in Iowa since 2008-2010 ? Give me a break. Some guys aren’t looking at this issue with an open mind. For every NR who abused the party hunting rule to take a buck while in Iowa hunting on a doe tag, there’s dozens of residents who shoot anything that moves on deer drives and settle up tagging deer when the drive is over. I’ve hunted all over the country for white tails and I assure you, when ya want to look for causes of deer decline, look no further than the low life element of resident hunters. Notice I did not claim all residents hunters. There’s always that element in any state.
Of the 6000 NRs allowed to hunt Iowa each year, only a small portion of those are landowners in the state. See how the idea of blaming NR land owners is flawed. I can guarantee you that way more of my out of state hunts have been screwed up by neighboring residents than NRs. It’s a numbers game….theres way more resident hunters ! When any issue involves emotion, there always the tendency to come up with a scape goat to blame. When it comes to the decline of deer hunting, blaming NRs is always low hanging fruit.


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Muddyrem said:
The 5-6 year wait in for archery tag. The issue lies the guys who abuse the doe tag loop hole during gun season. Those guys own ground, and then every member of their family will put in to draw, children, wife’s, grandmas, you name it. One draws and the rest buy doe tags. The farmer Joe blow up the road that hates deer also has a buck tag that can magically get bought. Once we get all this nonsense fixed, I think we’ll see these non residents slow up in buying land at whore house prices because they in fact will have to wait to kill a buck for several years.
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Did this not get changed this year? For some reason I thought something with NR doe tags and party hunting had changed???
 
Now seems like a perfect time to reply. Im a NRLO. Just got back from Iowa this morning. My son and his buddy bow hunted my farm and I hunted Missouri. Ive been using a party tag for years now with my family and Iowa friends. Not coming this year but my brother and wife are. There is a lot of sentiment and talk about NRLO in just the last few comments.
My farm is in Wayne Co. Wayne co issues 155 NR antlerless tags for the gun seasons. The last few years they have sold out. This year there are 90 tags left as of today. Im sure more will be bought but at almost $500 to be able to hunt one doe its not worth it to the guys like me and my family who played by the rules. Do the math in Wayne county alone for the licenses that go unsold. Say 90 tags unsold x $475 = $42750 lost revenue for DNR. The same is true in Alamakee county and a bunch of southern tier counties. How do you think DNR will respond to this lack of revenue especially if the trend continues for the next few years There is a great chart on Go Iowa Outdoors to track the sales if you are interested. It shows this year and past years. Since the rule change we are just going to alternate our gun applications so we have someone every year buck hunting.
I know I got off topic. My son killed what we considered a bully buck that was on every inch of our farm and the neighbors, and his buddy got a decent 4.5 yo. We are blessed that we have a decent population where we are and so far no EHD this summer
 
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