LC, I talked with John(GSLAM95) on the phone today too, and he says that he didn't even order any breeders for his shop, because of what you said, and he feels the same. He has his upright on a special stake system, and he pulls on a fish line and the decoy goes up and down, as if standing and then going back to the breeding position. I am glad I got my entire collection of Dave Smiths with this new A.C.E. technology, as they are hard to get. Dealers, like I said, have been slow to get them. Scheels were able to get several shipments in. I will use what you have in your pic, plus a pretty boy with real feathers, and I also have a pretty girl with real wings on her, if I feel the need to bring a breeder deke out. I am not going to throw another $119 out for that DSD breeder deke. Thanks, for the info, and glad you had fun. When arrowing these birds, a great deke spread is what it takes at times to hold a birds attention long enough,to get him in close, so that you can get an arrow off. Guys can use their cheapo dekes and charcoal bags, but you and I know a better way for the bow hunter:way: