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I think they should do all 50 govenor tags that way. It would be an easy way to get an extra $100,000 out of it.
 
This is the second year the IBA has auctioned off a conservation tag. We thought long and hard about accepting it. We were told by DNR if you don't take it someone else will. That tag helped put three more schools in the archery program and hopefully 3 or 4 more this year.
We have taken some heat for doing this, but the good these tags have generated far outweighs any negative affects.
 
I think all hunters tags who use a outfitter should go for the cost of what this one sells for...If outfitters are making money off of Iowas resources they should have to pay a premium for all their customers tags.
 
WOW 6,859 dollars for final bid......Someone must have a big deer picked out...And everyone was complaining about a measly 500 dollars....LOL :)


THE Iowa QDMA has there tag out there now......Its a bargain at the current price of 2602.....

http://cgi.ebay.com/Iowa-Deer-Hunt-...in_0?hash=item230249736f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14


Just like the FOI have been saying all along...its all about the money....at least thats the message I hear from them in there own twisted way. In reality as long as Iowa benefits from it and NR people are willing to pay....lets raise the price until the demand goes down...
 
weve definately lost sight of what hunting is all about. I cant even hunt with friends and family because of the damn price. It has become a money market / industry far different from what it used to be
 
You're correct grimreaper888, I to have been priced out of hunting with friends and family in Iowa also. Just another working regular family guy that can't justify spending the bucks. Thanks IOWA DNR, you plan is working...

By the way, the antis just love this...more hunters divided among themselves!
 
In the past the problem with the leases was in the southeast portion of Iowa but now that they have created the zones even Muscatine County is experiencing lots of lease issues and gaining access to ground.
 
Bill G are you kidding me? Every NR has no kids, no family in Iowa, no friends in Iowa, a big fat trust fund to tap, a cushy corner office six figure salary job, and $6,800 of chum change laying around to buy a tag. All kidding aside hunting deer is headed down the wrong road.
 
"IF" we were only talking about the $500 tag or whatever, I think it's getting rediculous BUT for the most part I personally don't believe it's as much of a problem for folks as they make it out to be. There will always be someone making a big stink.

My opinion that it's not as bad as folks make it out to be is: in college I hunted Illinois, Kansas, Iowa and Nebraska when I could get a tag. This was hundreds (maybe thousands) on tags. I paid for my own college, room & board, made MAYBE $10/hour, still had class, paid for gas and all my gear and still made it happen. It's all about how much it's a priority to you. I do think there will always be folks who are going to scream about the money aspect no matter what. $500 is getting rediculous BUT I don't buy how detrimental it is. Trying to be fair and honest and this is my OPINION. :)
 
The situation of nonresident LANDOWNERS not being able to hunt on their own land is flat-out ridiculous. I own 210 acres in Davis County, pay same taxes any other landowner, but am a resident of PA. Therefore, the only way I can bowhunt on my own property is to either wait 3 years to draw a nonres archery tag -or- step up and lay out the cash for one of these "governor" / conservation tags. No one's getting any younger (those of you who are 50 yrs or older know what I'm talking about), so to be able to hunt only 1 out of every 3 years ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY is just unacceptable. No other state, that I'm aware of, discriminates against nonresident landowners like Iowa. Sorry guys, but it's true...
 
Magnus, did you know those rules when you bought your land?
Why did you buy land in Iowa, because it's the best managed state in the country?
We all know it's the best state and crushes its neighbors because of its regs. You don't go to other NON-DISCRIMINATING states because their hunting is nothing compared to iowa, correct? If the other states were as good, I suspect you'd sell and buy in a state closer to PA (or heck, drive 20 minutes south of Davis county, IA and hunt northern MO which you can more tags over the counter than you can shake a stick at!)
Who should make those decisions on how the tags work- Residents or Non-Residents?
I understand where you are coming from, respectfully disagree and curious your answer to my 4 fair questions?
 
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Skip, Bought in IA because for the most part it is well managed. Yes, I knew the rules when I bought but was "cautiously optimistic" that things might change for nonresident owners of significant sized tracts. I still believe it could be setup to be fair to them and have minimal impact on deer numbers and quality. Re: decisions on these things ... I think Landowners should make decisions on issues that effect Landowners. Bob
 
Good response Bob, I do appreciate your perspective, understand where you are coming from. We can respectfully disagree BUT I will just finish by saying that deer are the resources of the state, its citizens and of the public of that state. Each state has the duty to manage its own deer herd how it wants to- every state is different. It's the citizens of that state, the citizen's DNR and the elected officials of the citizens that make those decisions. Iowa is so great because it's citizens and decisions/regs made it such. Iowa should have regs based on what Iowan's choose. Just like New Mexico being the best Elk hunting state for example, they manage it brilliantly with tight regulations and citizens & DNR of that state making the best management choices. Thanks for your opinion. :)
*and based on the harvest data and population trends on DNR's site, iowa is doing an outstanding job at managing deer numbers (decreasing drastically) and shooting tons of does. Regs are continuing to work amazingly in IA!
 
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Sligh,

Good post and I agree with most of your points, however, deer are the resource of the state but reside in tracts of land owned by R's and NR's throughout the state. The state can't manage the resource without cooperation from landowners, NR's and R's alike. I think the last stat I saw was NR ownership is approaching 20%; how does Iowa continue to maintain the quality of the resource when 20% of the property can't be managed propertly? Or, do you think the 20% NR land ownership is insignificant and doesn't impact the overall health of the herd.
 
OVERALL HEALTH OF THE HERD:
http://www.iowadnr.gov/wildlife/files/files/08population.pdf
Shows that NR's and Residents are working very well at lowering populations. Shooting far more does, etc. Obviously this is the data folks will look at- universally used to show herd health.

"how does Iowa continue to maintain the quality of the resource when 20% of the property can't be managed propertly?" I disagree with your premise that it can't be managed properly. You'll see from RAW stats that it is. County by county the numbers are coming down. There's always "pockets" of high deer no matter what (parks, big land owners, etc) BUT what Iowa is doing RIGHT NOW is rediculously successful. I'll contend that what IA is doing RIGHT NOW is the best management system/regs of ANY OTHER STATE- PERIOD. Always room for improvement BUT IA is best HANDS DOWN.

There may be other solutions like more doe tags BUT really, the problem is nothing that some make it out to be, the facts support that. Throwing a monkey wrench into a system that has proven for years to be the best is a recipe for disaster. Again, understand where you're coming from, you make some good points. Above is my perspective. *Obviously this is complicated and the debate will go on for years. I hope that IA continues to be the best!!
 
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