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Falldreams said:
To partly answer your question and for everybody else as well. Republican, Mike Sexton is very in favor of this additional depredation bill HF 65 on top Of the depredation programs we already have in place. It might be good to know that he farms 1000 acres with some of that in livestock and sheep from what i understand. He is extremely worried about his livestock ending up with CWD due to all of the overabundance of deer that use his property. When asked how many people he allows to hunt his thousand acres that he claims is overrun with deer his answer was one guy.

He needs much more insight and knowledge and education on Whitetails and CWD.
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Sounds like he needs to invest in some tall fences if he is that worried about deer intermingling with his livestock.
 
Falldreams said:
To partly answer your question and for everybody else as well. Republican, Mike Sexton is very in favor of this additional depredation bill HF 65 on top Of the depredation programs we already have in place. It might be good to know that he farms 1000 acres with some of that in livestock and sheep from what i understand. He is extremely worried about his livestock ending up with CWD due to all of the overabundance of deer that use his property. When asked how many people he allows to hunt his thousand acres that he claims is overrun with deer his answer was one guy.

He needs much more insight and knowledge and education on Whitetails and CWD.
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I’ve had some luck with Mr. Sexton in the past. We have gotten through to him before on a few things. He does represent a very ag heavy area and i suspect some of his public stances are attempts at appeasing some large donors to look like he tried. He might need a little education.. No matter what do not give up on speaking to anybody no matter what their public stances are!
 
The depredation program in general is a very very touchy subject with many farmers.. Some absolutely love it but others unfortunately try to get depredation tags but do not “qualify” in the eyes of the depredation program managers because they restrict hunting access in they eyes of the manager. Unfortunately lots of farmers would like depredation tags but also lease out or limit who hunts on their land so they are denied depredation tags. No surprise but they want to have it both ways. I suspect many currently bitching about their crop damage also restrict access or lease out or whatever on their land. It’s a total non issue to them. It does not matter if they had avenues to address the overpopulation and chose not to. They want to have it both ways and will do whatever is in their power to do that. They literally want all the deer all shot but still want some compensation for that to happen. Hard to get through to them!!

I should add.. if more farmers knew the correct terminology to use while dealing with the DNR they could easily obtain depredation tags while continuing to lease out or limit access on their land.
 
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This is roughly Mr Sexton’s area. (And read to the bottom)… The most recent DNR study. Some of the lowest deer densities in the state. His county Calhoun is literally the lowest in the state!! I stand firm by the notion that some guys don’t want solutions or even have “real problems”- they just wanna bitch.
My question to Mr sexton beyond above (which is glaringly obvious like you pointed out!!!!!) ….. how many times have you contacted your local CO to grant access to folks that want to shoot does? You know- that standing list that never gets met. The answer is clearly 0. Along with his rationale of wanting to change the states regs because he allows 1 or 2 hunters on his thousand acres?!?!?!? Sorry, but the assessment that he’s loaded with deer is not correct based on the data (this is the density in areas with cover by the way)…. It’s not based on facts regarding the solutions he already has. So what else could it be?????
COULD IT BE: Lobbying by Farm Bureau &/or political donations? Sorry folks, it’s either that &/or pure ignorance + laziness. & one more sorry…. There’s cases where ignorance, laziness & lack of common sense get employment…. One of those areas is as a POLITICIAN!!! There’s a lot of good ones but on this issue, based on what we are seeing- this is either $ at play or lack of common sense. Period.
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PUBLIC INFO: quick search, home & sheep operation, their address. It’s got one pocket of timber where deer might live. It’s NO HUNTING in that pocket. So, he has a no hunting pocket by him - maybe go about changing that if it’s truly such a big issue vs changing the whole state. Reality- BS that timber is that loaded with deer. The whole “no hunting “ part is 64 acres!!!!! To south of it is public. In the no hunting, it’s maybe 20 acres of timber. Maybe. It borders homes of N twin lake is why it’s no hunting. Do I even need to explain this anymore? Does this not illustrate how irrational & misdirected some in POLITICS really are?!?!?! In some form, this discussion with FACTS will be taking place.



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Sligh1 said:
This is roughly Mr Sexton’s area. The most recent DNR study. Some of the lowest deer densities in the state. I stand firm by the notion that some guys don’t want solutions or even have “real problems”- they just wanna bitch.
My question to Mr sexton beyond above (which is glaringly obvious like you pointed out!!!!!) ….. how many times have you contacted your local CO to grant access to folks that want to shoot does? You know- that standing list that never gets met. The answer is clearly 0. Along with his rationale of wanting to change the states regs because he allows 1 or 2 hunters on his thousand acres?!?!?!? Sorry, but the assessment that he’s loaded with deer is not correct based on the data (this is the density in areas with cover by the way)…. It’s not based on facts regarding the solutions he already has. So what else could it be?????
COULD IT BE: Lobbying by Farm Bureau &/or political donations? Sorry folks, it’s either that &/or pure ignorance + laziness. & one more sorry…. There’s cases where ignorance, laziness & lack of common sense get employment…. One of those areas is as a POLITICIAN!!! There’s a lot of good ones but on this issue, based on what we are seeing- this is either $ at play or lack of common sense. Period.
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Absolutely!!! I refuse to believe people this accomplished are that ignorant/stupid etc.. can come up with as bad of a term as you can think of. In one way shape or form it is most definitely a pay off to somebody!
 
Sligh1 said:
This is roughly Mr Sexton’s area. The most recent DNR study. Some of the lowest deer densities in the state. I stand firm by the notion that some guys don’t want solutions or even have “real problems”- they just wanna bitch.
My question to Mr sexton beyond above (which is glaringly obvious like you pointed out!!!!!) ….. how many times have you contacted your local CO to grant access to folks that want to shoot does? You know- that standing list that never gets met. The answer is clearly 0. Along with his rationale of wanting to change the states regs because he allows 1 or 2 hunters on his thousand acres?!?!?!? Sorry, but the assessment that he’s loaded with deer is not correct based on the data (this is the density in areas with cover by the way)…. It’s not based on facts regarding the solutions he already has. So what else could it be?????
COULD IT BE: Lobbying by Farm Bureau &/or political donations? Sorry folks, it’s either that &/or pure ignorance + laziness. & one more sorry…. There’s cases where ignorance, laziness & lack of common sense get employment…. One of those areas is as a POLITICIAN!!! There’s a lot of good ones but on this issue, based on what we are seeing- this is either $ at play or lack of common sense. Period.
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Skip, not only did I bring up and talk about the official DNR registry that every county has for people that want to come shoot does, but rge DNR representative that was there talked to Mr. Sexton about that as well. Mr. Sexton was oblivious that even existed!! The DNR rep went on to explain how our current depredation system has proven to be much more efficient at killing deer than any other deer seasons by a landslide.
Mr. Sexton then went on to talk about both having big deer and so many that they are opening up his feed bags and eating that as well. This prompted Farm Bureau lobbyist to propose an amendment to allow that to be considered crop damage as well.
 
My take on his comments yesterday were he is confusing certain symptons and causes of EHD and CWD. I know that Phil the lobbyist had done a great job trying to educate him ahead of the meeting and when presented with this,switched to complaining that the deer are breaking into his silage bags and ruining them.
 
hans1 said:
My take on his comments yesterday were he is confusing certain symptons and causes of EHD and CWD. I know that Phil the lobbyist had done a great job trying to educate him ahead of the meeting and when presented with this,switched to complaining that the deer are breaking into his silage bags and ruining them.
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Agreed on all of that. Phil told me about the entire pre-meeting conversation with Mr. Sexton. And yes he most definitely switched up his agenda to the silage bags (silly nonsense of course). He is most definitely confused and lacking knowledge on EHD and CWD. Or he is possibly playing ignorant in an attempt to further his agenda of kill more deer with more depredation tags and more time to kill them.
 
I unfortunately didn't read this in time to attend the meetings, but kudos to those who did. Scary proposals that would be big, negative changes if passed.
 
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