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I didnt know how long this has been on the homepage, but I know a lot of you guys have your homepage as a the forum list. WE got some serious problems if something like this happens

This is copying weird, but the jist of it is. There will be free anysex and antlerless tags issued to farm units even if the people do no live there. ALSO They can sell these to both residents and NONRESIDENTS!!

We gotta get on this one.

HOUSE FILE
BY SWAIM

(COMPANION TO LSB 5320SS
BY KREIMAN)


Passed House, Date Passed Senate, Date
Vote: Ayes Nays Vote: Ayes Nays
Approved

A BILL FOR

1 An Act relating to issuance of additional free deer hunting
2 licenses to owners and tenants of farm units.
3 BE IT ENACTED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF IOWA:
4 TLSB 5320HH 82
5 av/nh/5

PAG LIN



1 1 Section 1. Section 483A.24, subsection 2, paragraph c, Code
1 2 Supplement 2007, is amended to read as follows:
1 3 c. (1) Upon written application on forms furnished by the
1 4 department, the department shall issue annually without fee
1 5 two deer hunting licenses, one antlered or any sex deer
1 6 hunting license and one antlerless deer only deer hunting
1 7 license, to the owner of a farm unit or a member of the
1 8 owner's family, but only a total of two licenses for both, and
1 9 to the tenant of a farm unit or a member of the tenant's
1 10 family, but only a total of two licenses for both. The deer
1 11 hunting licenses issued shall be valid only for use on the
1 12 farm unit for which the applicant applies pursuant to this
1 13 paragraph subparagraph. The owner or the tenant need not
1 14 reside on the farm unit to qualify for the free deer hunting
1 15 licenses to hunt on that farm unit. The free deer hunting
1 16 licenses issued pursuant to this paragraph subparagraph shall
1 17 be valid and may be used during any shotgun deer season. The
1 18 licenses may be used to harvest deer in two different seasons.
1 19 In addition, a person who receives a free deer hunting license
1 20 pursuant to this paragraph subparagraph shall pay a one dollar
1 21 fee for each license that shall be used and is appropriated
1 22 for the purpose of deer herd population management, including
1 23 assisting with the cost of processing deer donated to the help
1 24 us stop hunger program administered by the commission.
1 25 (2) In addition to the deer hunting licenses issued
1 26 without fee under subparagraph (1), upon written application
1 27 on forms furnished by the department, the department shall
1 28 issue annually without fee one any sex deer hunting license
1 29 for the first forty acres of a farm unit and one antlerless
1 30 deer hunting license for each additional forty acres of the
1 31 farm unit to the owner or tenant of the farm unit. The deer
1 32 hunting licenses issued shall be valid only for use on the
1 33 farm unit for which the applicant applies pursuant to this
1 34 subparagraph. The owner or the tenant need not reside on the
1 35 farm unit to qualify for the free deer hunting licenses. The
2 1 free deer hunting licenses issued pursuant to this
2 2 subparagraph shall be valid and may be used during any shotgun
2 3 deer season. The licenses may be used to harvest deer in two
2 4 different seasons. The licenses are transferable and may be
2 5 given or sold by the owner or tenant, without prior notice to
2 6 the department, to a resident or nonresident hunter who is
2 7 otherwise qualified to hunt deer in this state. In addition,
2 8 a person who receives a free deer hunting license pursuant to
2 9 this subparagraph shall pay a one dollar fee for each license
2 10 that shall be used and is appropriated for the purpose of deer
2 11 herd population management, including assisting with the cost
2 12 of processing deer donated to the help us stop hunger program
2 13 administered by the commission.
2 14 EXPLANATION
2 15 This bill relates to the issuance of additional free deer
2 16 hunting licenses to owners and tenants of farm units.
2 17 The bill requires the department of natural resources to
2 18 issue annually one free any sex deer hunting license to an
2 19 owner or tenant of a farm unit for the first 40 acres of the
2 20 farm unit and one anterless deer hunting license for each
2 21 additional 40 acres of the farm unit. The licenses are valid
2 22 only for use on the farm unit, are valid and may be used
2 23 during any shotgun deer season or in two different seasons.
2 24 The licenses are transferable and may be given or sold by the
2 25 owner or tenant, without prior notice to the department, to a
2 26 resident or nonresident hunter who is otherwise qualified to
2 27 hunt deer in this state. A person who receives the free
2 28 license must pay the $1 fee that assists with processing deer
2 29 donated to the help us stop hunger program.
2 30 LSB 5320HH 82
2 31 av/nh/5
 
Im there dude, Im the one that wants to kill all your big deer:)

Hopefully you can get used to it. Cause im not goin away.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fletchman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Im there dude, Im the one that wants to kill all your big deer:)

Hopefully you can get used to it. Cause im not goin away. </div></div>

WOW!!!
 
The Residents hunters of Iowa better pony up and fight for your resources. I live in SC the worse state for whitetail management in the Union. Lobbyists were able to get this bill pass because a 5 buck limit was passed and mention of having to use a deer tag in the future. It’s too late for us to ever have sound wildlife management. Our resources will for ever be pimped out to lobbyist, but you guys have still have hope. FIGHT.

The following bill passed without ever going to a House or Senate Committee.


S 0999 General Bill, By McGill and Land
A BILL TO AMEND SECTION 50-11-335, AS AMENDED, CODE OF LAWS OF SOUTH CAROLINA,
1976, RELATING TO THE BAG LIMIT ON ANTLERED DEER, SO AS TO PROVIDE THAT IN
GAME ZONE 5 THERE IS NO DAILY OR SEASON LIMIT ON ANTLERED DEER .

01/16/08 Senate Introduced, read first time, placed on calendar
without reference SJ-13
01/16/08 Senate Unanimous consent for second and third readings
on next two consecutive legislative days SJ-13
01/17/08 Senate Read second time SJ-12
01/18/08 Senate Read third time and sent to House SJ-1
01/22/08 House Introduced, read first time, placed on calendar
without reference HJ-8
01/23/08 House Read second time HJ-29
01/24/08 House Read third time and enrolled
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: all4s</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fletchman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Im there dude, Im the one that wants to kill all your big deer:)

Hopefully you can get used to it. Cause im not goin away. </div></div>

WOW!!!

</div></div>



Nobody should be suprised by that attitude. Start writing your legislators guys!
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fletchman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Im there dude, Im the one that wants to kill all your big deer:)

Hopefully you can get used to it. Cause im not goin away. </div></div>

Fletchman, I know that you want to argue with somebody, but lets get down and look at the hard facts. You want to come to Iowa to shoot one of those booners that you think that are behind every tree. But I'm sorry, your not the only one. So really, really think about this. If the quota was lifted off for non-residents to hunt, do you really think that Iowa will keep the reputation that it does for having some of the best deer hunting in the midwest? Non-residents would love it for a year or two, but it would be another Illinios, if you don't have a lease for yourself, you will have to pay an outfitter to hunt.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fletchman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Im there dude, Im the one that wants to kill all your big deer:)

Hopefully you can get used to it. Cause im not goin away.

</div></div>

It's hunters like you who make the word [non-resident]a real sore subject. Eventually the anti hunters and people like you will put an end to Great hunting states like Iowa.
Stay home or start showing some respect, starting right here on this forum.
Jeff~
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fletchman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Im there dude, Im the one that wants to kill all your big deer:)

Hopefully you can get used to it. Cause im not goin away. </div></div>

Is there sarcasm in this quote or are you serious? not funny AT ALL!!
 
FAct is there are a lot of people that feel that way... they want to swarm Iowa and shoot every big buck available. And they will at the first opportunity. As a former resident who now has to wait 2-3 years between hunts, I can see both sides of it.

But I can tell you this one thing for certain: THis bill would kill the goose that laid the golden egg.

I say both residents and nonresidents should fight this and keep the goose laying golden eggs for a long time to come.
 
If this passes I think I will need to raise the price on my place south of Washington. How they allocate the tags would make a big difference but still it would be the beginning of the end. Write your reps now.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If this passes I think I will need to raise the price on my place south of Washington. How they allocate the tags would make a big difference but still it would be the beginning of the end. Write your reps now. </div></div>
/forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shocked.gif I may have to ask the neigbor if he wants to sell the bean field /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/whistle.gif
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Iowa1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">FAct is there are a lot of people that feel that way... they want to swarm Iowa and shoot every big buck available. </div></div>

...They don't seem to want to shoot many does either, that is where the problem lies in some areas.

I've sent about 15 emails to the Natural Resource Committee members and I've recieved 3 replies..keep at it though.
 
Swaims response to me.

Todd,
The bill is running into considerably difficultly anyway. I am beginning to doubt that it will go anywhere. Best regards, Kurt

I add /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
 
Yes, anyone who passionately cares about the future of Iowa deer hunting should write your legislaturs. But, what about letting Farm Beauru know how you feel. How many of you are Farm Beauru Mbrs? Who do you have Ins. with? How do they stand on they stand on the issue of deer population control?

I just think we all could be doing more than just letting our legislaturor know how we feel. Let your insurance companies also know how you feel also!
 
I'm afraid the deer numbers will be reduced to the 70's level. Any out of state hunter isn't here to shoot does even if they are packing a doe tag.Just not sure where the insurance co. will push this.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> But, what about letting Farm Beauru know how you feel.</div></div>

Funny you mentioned that. I recently sent a letter to my FB insurance rep. It is now being sent up the FB Federation flag pole to see who will salute it! /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Hopefully you can get used to it. Cause im not goin away. </div></div>

Luckily I can guarantee about 2000 acres I know you will NEVER step your foot on.

I understand some people want to really hunt deer in this state, but to present yourself the way you did when you made your first post and to add this comment to this post...pretty much lets me know my poker game had you pegged from the get go.

And people wonder why there is some negative feelings on NR tags in Iowa from the residents? It's people like you...or the scums that come here with antlerless tags for one county and poach a buck in another county. Nothing makes me more happy than to know when they get caught.

ALSO, it's people like you that ruin people's confidence in making posts on this site. Luckily there's a PMA section, but even that has been spammed lately. A handful of guys on here have been burnt by out of staters, that use this website as their yearly scouting adventure to conduct research of who's posting what and where, then go and poach deer on that land.

As for this bill, I sure hope calls and emails do the trick, but I wouldn't be surprised to see some jacka$$ slip it in as an earmark of another bill...especially if the "special interests" people pay that person off.

This is a VERY VERY BAD plan for IOWA...
 
Cmon guys cant you take a joke?

Hey I would love to hunt Iowa EVERY year, I like killin big deer.

But your laws subject me to only killing your deer once every three years.

So I go to Illinois every year and kill big deer, gotta do what ya gotta do:)

I have friends (WITH very good hunting LAND) in Iowa that would like me to hunt with them yearly, but Im not the type to buy a doe tag and come down and kill a buck and have a local tag it, (Happens all the time).


So Im not the hunter you should be worried about.

Your State is messed up on givin doe tags to NR's and still allowing "Party hunting"

Does this make any sense?
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fletchman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

I have friends (WITH very good hunting LAND) in Iowa that would like me to hunt with them yearly, but Im not the type to buy a doe tag and come down and kill a buck and have a local tag it, (Happens all the time).



Your State is messed up on givin doe tags to NR's and still allowing "Party hunting"
</div></div>

I wonder how excited your friends would be about you coming down to hunt their land when an outfitter was offering them $60.00+ per acre to lease their ground or a NR was offering them $5000+ per acre to buy their "very good hunting land"?

I have heard of family members that were kicked off the family farms for a lot less money let alone a friend that lives in a different State. So I'd be careful what you wish/hope for.

On your second point I couldn't agree more!
 
[Qoute] your State is messed up on givin doe tags to NR's and still allowing "Party hunting"
Does this make any sense? [/quote]


Now check this fellow out, he promotes buying a doe tag and having a non hunter basicly hunt with him carrying a buck tag. I called this fellow out of New York who calls himself a outfitters representative. This guy is bad for the sport, and looking for only his benefit $$$.
Call him for yourself.
Jeff~

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