Aint it the truth.I like to get in the tree or be settled late muzz by at least 3;30 or so but have went in later then that.Depends on the weather tempature ect. but hunt when you can!I like to have 3 hours on stand. That is 3 hours set, settled, ready to rock. not climbing the tree and getting everything ready leaving you 2.5 hrs or so. It seems when i get out there early, they come late, and when i am running late....they are coming when i am hugging the frickin tree with my bow or gun at the bottom.