Egyptian Wheat

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  1. Guest

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    I wanted to share a few photo's of an egyptian wheat planting designed to create additional screening and edge in somewhat open terrain.

    I was pleased with the effectiveness and deer usage through the middle of November yet as you can see the high winds and snow did knock down much of the planting - as seen in the second set of snow pictures.

    Here are a few pictures from Nov 12th ...

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    These are from Nov 30th

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    The deer like to eat it as well ...

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  3. BOWSTRING

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    Great pics
     
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    Looks familar;)

    Was wondering how that stuff worked out.
     
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  5. dbltree

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    The deer like to eat it as well ...



    Sweet!

    Dang it nanny...where's mine??;)
     
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    What time of year did you plant that so it was mature by fall?

    That's a good idea! I take it Egyptian wheat gets much taller than typical winter wheat?
     
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    Great pictures, Im planning on planting Egyptian wheat and sorghum together this spring and cant find a link pertaining to herbicids for Egyptian Wheat, does anybody have one, or does anyone know what herbicids will work for both. Thanks
     
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    Egyptian wheat is not wheat at all but rather a type of sorghum.

    It has a 120-150 day growing season so plant in May for most of us.



    Atrazine will work as a herbicide at roughly 2 quarts/pounds per acre.

    I think if you give it a heavy does of Nitrogen it will grow so fast and thick that weeds will not be a problem however.

    Plant EW at 10#'s per acre by either broadcasting or drilling.

    Soybeans make a good addition to an EW planting especially climbing soys.

    Fertilize with 200-300 triple 19 or 100#'s of 46-0-0 urea for strong lush growth.

    Planting Egyptian Wheat For Bobwhite Quail

    Egyptian Wheat Seed Source

    Egyptian Wheat - Cooper seed

    Egyptian Wheat (Shallu) - Adams - Briscoe Seed Company
     
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  9. dbltree

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    I planted several strips of Egyptian Wheat on May 11th and 12th so we'll see how it does.

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    The following is planting info from Cooper Seeds:

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    I had to broadcast it and hopefully didn't get it to thick. Both areas had not been tilled in years and the ground was really to wet but I stirred it up and planted anyway.

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    I tilled in roughly 40#'s per acre of urea

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    Then we sprayed on atrazine at roughly 2 quarts per acre

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    Besides the tiller I used only a backpack sprayer and a bag seeder

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    Curious if I can not only create a screen but also a funnel

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    This area is already a "tree screen" in progress but the EW will help block road views until the shrubs mature.

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    I have one more strip to do but I'm going to wait a few weeks and see if warmer soils have much effect on germination and growth as it does for milo.
     
  11. dbltree

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    The Egyptian Wheat is coming up...here's pics from a couple different plots, the first i didn't have a cultipacker available and germination seems more spotty and uneven.

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    New seedling I pulled up showing the seed

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    We used atrazine so pretty much the only thing coming up is EW

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    You can see the "lines" from the packer wheels here

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    and the plants are much thicker...perhaps too thick

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    I tilled in urea and with good residual weed control via the atrazine the Egyptian Wheat should make an awesome screen and possible even a funnel if I did things right...;)
     
  12. dbltree

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    This is my EW on June 10th, gonna check on it again in a few days, we've had so much rain I haven't been able to get within a country mile of the place! :rolleyes::D


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    Some Egyptian Wheat updates from mid June thru early July.

    Mid June...

    This pic shows EW planted thinner which is generally better for tall robust growth.

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    This side I purposefully sowed it thicker to compare growth and screening this fall.

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    We had extreme amounts of water all spring and theis EW is on low ground so it's a bit yellow in these pics.

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    I used plenty of urea but heavy rains can cause leaching and denitrification of nitrogen as is evidident on much of SE Iowa's corn ground this summer.

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    These pics are on higher ground in early July and this pic shows a little better spacing

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    These pics are at my place where it was slightly higher ground and growth was much better where the EW wasn't in such soggy soil

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    I think growth will really pickup as warm summer weather does and the EW isn't in standing water! :)
     
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    Late July and the egyptian wheat is putting on some growth!

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    We watched a fawn slip down through this stuff that also makes some great quail and pheasant cover.

    This pic shows how the well the atrazine controlled weeds

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    EW can handle some weed growth and a mix of broadleaves and and the wheat can make for some great game bird food and cover:way:
     
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    I may have to get some of that stuff!!! Looks great and must be in the corn family since it looks like corn and can handle atrazine.
     
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    how much does a bag run ya roughly??
     
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  17. dbltree

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    We had to order it from Cooper Seeds where it was $56 for 50#'s but cost all most as much in shipping! :eek: :D

    You can order 10#'s for $15.50 though and let me tell ya...10#'s will go along long way!!! :grin:

    If anybody knows of a closer source in our area I'll be happy to post it here as well. :)
     
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    I will ask the local MFA in Lineville, IA if they can get it.
     
  19. dbltree

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    August 6th...egyptian wheat progress...first picture is setting in the truck to give an idea of the screen it is starting to provide.

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    It's getting up there! Lot's of rain this summer is keeping it growing!

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    This is standing in it holding the camera at eye level

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    Planted along side a shrub planting the two can make a great protective screen and/or travel route

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    Seeding to heavy is a mistake but easy to do! I seeded one side heavy to compare and it looks like this

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    While the other at closer to 10#'s an acre is taller and more robust

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    Since the whole idea here is to get height for screening purposes we don't want to overseed and stunt growth.

    This shows heavy seeding left and normal seeding right

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    Great stuff that is multi purpose for screening, travel corridors, safety around food plots, quail and pheasant cover and a late season food source...:way:
     
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    The Egyptian Wheat just keeps growing!

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    I tried to get pics to show height compared to shrub plantings

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    In this pic there is some 8' high Big Blustem growing right beside the shortest of the EW where I puposely planted it thicker.

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    You can see the thick planting on the left is shorter then the normal seeded EW on the right

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    The thick planting is really to dense for wildlife use, doesn't grow as tall and isn't going to produce the seed heads that the normally planted EW is

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    Even the side planted at 10#'s per acre is plenty thick!

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    Great stuff to plant in conjuction with a young tree planting to provide screening while the trees are still growing...:way:
     
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    Will this come back volunteer next year? My landowner wouldn't smile upon something that would keep showing up in his fields for years.....
     

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