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Roundup Ready Corn & Soybean Food Plot

Sligh1

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I’ll admit- living in iowa- maybe lil corn & bean pics are boring as that’s all folks see when they drive around. For me - on my place- its still interesting & fun. To see success I spose. Sorry if a lil boring to anyone else though. I’ve got to see some challenges & failures through out the years so this year is rewarding SO FAR! Good luck on weather, growth & all the things that make growing things so challenging/rewarding.




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Looking good Skip. We got 6” ot rain Wednesday night and some places have gotten 12” the past 6 days. Gonna be tough year for a lot of folks in NCMO


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Sligh1

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Getting herbicides right, especially on corn, is tough. Beans are easier to respray. Corn, idea is, to keep them clean so they can get tall & crowd out weeds before they have a chance. It’s super nice to avoid having to respray corn. Beans are clearly a 2-3 pass spray program. I’m hopeful this no till corn will be one spray. Things that make it possible: no till, cover crops if able & this herbicide application... heavy Gly & ammonium sulfate for kill + atrazine, metolachlor & mesotrione. Those 3 last pre-emergents (which do work as post emergent as well)... they cover the spectrum for keeping grasses & the vast array of broadleaves out. Acuron would be slightly better with one more added to this list of 3 but splitting hairs.
If second spray is needed on corn- if needed at this stage- this photo was from about a week ago. I’d be adding metolachlor, prowl h20 & maybe one of above. In addition to Gly. Get those weeds when small & watch that they don’t get out of control. Can go nuts & get out of control fast in ground with massive Nitrogen there to grow corn.



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Farm boy

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Getting herbicides right, especially on corn, is tough. Beans are easier to respray. Corn, idea is, to keep them clean so they can get tall & crowd out weeds before they have a chance. It’s super nice to avoid having to respray corn. Beans are clearly a 2-3 pass spray program. I’m hopeful this no till corn will be one spray. Things that make it possible: no till, cover crops if able & this herbicide application... heavy Gly & ammonium sulfate for kill + atrazine, metolachlor & mesotrione. Those 3 last pre-emergents (which do work as post emergent as well)... they cover the spectrum for keeping grasses & the vast array of broadleaves out. Acuron would be slightly better with one more added to this list of 3 but splitting hairs.
If second spray is needed on corn- if needed at this stage- this photo was from about a week ago. I’d be adding metolachlor, prowl h20 & maybe one of above. In addition to Gly. Get those weeds when small & watch that they don’t get out of control. Can go nuts & get out of control fast in ground with massive Nitrogen there to grow corn.



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Another thing that works extremely well for burn down and you have easy access use 28% instead of ammonium sulfate.
32 ounces of Gly is all that's needed
 

Sligh1

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Corn. Even so, if you have standing corn, when/how do you drill the rye over atanding corn?


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This is a very tough one. I’ll admit this is a “6-8 on difficulty scale”. The correct answer is the broadcast it if u have space in a wide row area or when it’s mowed. It’s not super easy but can be done. Keys are: rye can germinate super cold temps, in 30’s - so even towards mid winter is fine for example. A guy can get a bag seeder to fly em up in air too. Or those seeders that mount on leaf blowers.
This is the most challenging cover crop- standing corn. But can be done. More u have stuff growing 365 days a year and covered soil, no or limited till- better off u be
 
This is a very tough one. I’ll admit this is a “6-8 on difficulty scale”. The correct answer is the broadcast it if u have space in a wide row area or when it’s mowed. It’s not super easy but can be done. Keys are: rye can germinate super cold temps, in 30’s - so even towards mid winter is fine for example. A guy can get a bag seeder to fly em up in air too. Or those seeders that mount on leaf blowers.
This is the most challenging cover crop- standing corn. But can be done. More u have stuff growing 365 days a year and covered soil, no or limited till- better off u be

10-4 i didnt know if i was missing something
Id say i could just run over what i want to shred later (jan-feb) is the side by side or tractor especially if im dont hunting for the year.
Do you guys just spray to terminate? Im not buying one of the rollermabobbers


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Sligh1

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10-4 i didnt know if i was missing something
Id say i could just run over what i want to shred later (jan-feb) is the side by side or tractor especially if im dont hunting for the year.
Do you guys just spray to terminate? Im not buying one of the rollermabobbers


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Beans into rye is cake! Easy!! By time you planting beans - even if u seeded rye in winter, rye will be 10-20” tall. Can simply spray with same stuff u would spray anyways.... plant right into it. Easy. I personally don’t crimp, mow, nothing. Plant right into it. Beans will grow better, less weeds, the rye will mulch the soil (heat & evaporation helped) & build organic matter.
It’s insane how much are soils are in need of: earthworms, moisture holding ability/organic matter, natural ecology of organisms and a firm root structure to stop the massive erosion General farming has. Sometime after a rain- go look & see if u see streams of top soil flowing down edges, ruts, wash outs, etc.
I’ll post up a few YouTube vids to listen to in car. The one thing I won’t do is graze animals.... I spread manure & do cover crops & soils in great shape. Won’t graze. But - here’s a few.... million examples- here’s one channel:
https://m.youtube.com/c/GrassfedExc...itct=CBIQ8JMBGAEiEwj_7oX59r7qAhWBhMIBHUnJA8Y=
start with this one.....

Check out cover crop & regenerative agriculture topics on YouTube. It all ties together.
 

IowaBowHunter1983

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Some move with no-tilling corn into the rye?


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Be really careful with that. Rye has allopathic affects on corn. If you don't terminate it early spring it's bad news for planting corn. Likley a "grass against grass" mechanism ( not positive)

Speaking of rye again.... best weed control I've ever seen. Plant rye into half your beans (ahead of a brassica plot or plan on killing early). Dont plant in other half of beans. See how many more weeds are in the non rye side. Its so crazy.



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Nrharris

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Be really careful with that. Rye has allopathic affects on corn. If you don't terminate it early spring it's bad news for planting corn. Likley a "grass against grass" mechanism ( not positive)

Speaking of rye again.... best weed control I've ever seen. Plant rye into half your beans (ahead of a brassica plot or plan on killing early). Dont plant in other half of beans. See how many more weeds are in the non rye side. Its so crazy.



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Also very good chance of having army worms destroy your corn with rye ahead of corn.
 

hillrunner

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I planted 2 corn plots this year. I no tilled both plots but one had rye seeded last fall. I sprayed both fields with gly, and atrazine 3 days before I planted .
They both turned out great but the rye plot had far less weed pressure than the other.
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hillrunner

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I'll add that i
I planted 2 corn plots this year. I no tilled both plots but one had rye seeded last fall. I sprayed both fields with gly, and atrazine 3 days before I planted .
They both turned out great but the rye plot had far less weed pressure than the other.View attachment 119681View attachment 119682

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I'll add that I also included 24d to the tank on my burn down to the non rye plot due to a lot of different weeds that were not present in the rye field. The only thing I needed to kill on the rye burn down was rye.
 

Sligh1

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How many sprayings u do- just one? Looks really nice!! You caught that rye before got too big- well done!!! Was the weedy ground previously beans?
 
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