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Iowa Cell Camera rules

I don't hunt much public, but I can see how loaded with cameras would be annoying and aggravating. I don't quite understand the hate for cell on private, I would rather have a neighbor that invests a boat load of time and money targeting a specific animal, if he wants 100 cell cams on his 40 acres so be it. If he's a tech nerd with no other woodsman- ship skills, he won't be harvesting much. I'd rather be next to a tech guy that cares about his area herd and the future of it than some bafoon that invites his city jack friends to shoot at every moving animal like it's a video game come shotgun season. Then they slaughter every antlered deer year after year and complain to everyone that poachers must be taking out the big bucks.what about the good Ole boy that gets his deer off the combine, or late at night chisel plowing in November with a thunderstick. Bottom line is most serious bowhunters will be in a stand late Oct or early Nov hunting their best spots on the right winds, during the best weather fronts regardless of camera feedback
 
Copenhagen Tob said:
I don't hunt much public, but I can see how loaded with cameras would be annoying and aggravating. I don't quite understand the hate for cell on private, I would rather have a neighbor that invests a boat load of time and money targeting a specific animal, if he wants 100 cell cams on his 40 acres so be it. If he's a tech nerd with no other woodsman- ship skills, he won't be harvesting much. I'd rather be next to a tech guy that cares about his area herd and the future of it than some bafoon that invites his city jack friends to shoot at every moving animal like it's a video game come shotgun season. Then they slaughter every antlered deer year after year and complain to everyone that poachers must be taking out the big bucks.what about the good Ole boy that gets his deer off the combine, or late at night chisel plowing in November with a thunderstick. Bottom line is most serious bowhunters will be in a stand late Oct or early Nov hunting their best spots on the right winds, during the best weather fronts regardless of camera feedback
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I'm only presenting a point of view and not arguing for or against either position.

The perceived problem with cell cams on private is deer are transient and don't belong to just one person's farm. Cell cams have the potential to eliminate fair chase. Fair for both the animal and the others in the area.

Take this example:
You own an 80-acre parcel that shares borders with with parcels owned by four other hunting families. You all know there is a 200" buck local to the area. You get a cell pic at 615pm on a Friday night of that buck hot on the tail of a doe entering your parcel and have easy access to a stand with good wind for the direction they are headed. Would you cancel plans to go to your son's football game and get in that stand?

Now, how is it different from if your son is out in the field harvesting on a Saturday morning and he calls you on the phone to relay the same info?

Currently, the phone call is illegal but it is relaying very similar hunt intelligence as the cell cam.
 

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NRC approves ban on trail cameras in state managed areas (Radio Iowa) – The Iowa Natural Resource Commission is moving forward with new rules to ban all trail cameras in state game management areas....
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hillrunner said:
The quote in the article says cell cams were already banned and this law is only addressing non transmitting cameras. Is that true?
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Wow, the article definitely says that, for both public and private land...but that is news to me. And I think that there are many, many people using cell cams all over this state who will say..."What???"

While I personally agree that cell cams are electronic surveillance and therefore not conducive to fair chase, I certainly did not have any idea that they weren't permitted, especially on private land. BRB...gonna go pop some corn and come back and read more. :cool:
 
Daver said:
Wow, the article definitely says that, for both public and private land...but that is news to me. And I think that there are many, many people using cell cams all over this state who will say..."What???"

While I personally agree that cell cams are electronic surveillance and therefore not conducive to fair chase, I certainly did not have any idea that they weren't permitted, especially on private land. BRB...gonna go pop some corn and come back and read more. :cool:
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There was a correction made, as the person who released that article clearly didn’t understand the laws.

State land = no trail cameras

Private land = you can’t use them to help out in a current hunt. Good luck proving that part, but we’ll see what they come up with.
 

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Muddyrem said:
There was a correction made, as the person who released that article clearly didn’t understand the laws.

State land = no trail cameras

Private land = you can’t use them to help out in a current hunt. Good luck proving that part, but we’ll see what they come up with.
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And yet there will be a hundred idiots that post on social media "got a pic and went in after him!". Here's your ticket, thanks for playing.
 
IowaBowHunter1983 said:
And yet there will be a hundred idiots that post on social media "got a pic and went in after him!". Here's your ticket, thanks for playing.
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It’s definitely going to be a slippery slope for sure. They’re so much gray in it right now. Majority of guys are running cameras in the fall to gain information. The newest info the better. Just because you get pictures of him in the plot the morning doesn’t mean he’s going to show up that night. I think they’re going to have to spell it out black and white.
 
Muddyrem said:
It’s definitely going to be a slippery slope for sure. They’re so much gray in it right now. Majority of guys are running cameras in the fall to gain information. The newest info the better. Just because you get pictures of him in the plot the morning doesn’t mean he’s going to show up that night. I think they’re going to have to spell it out black and white.
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I agree. No way to prove if a pic was used in aid of killing a deer. Have to go with a 24 hour or 48hour dump of pictures at midnight or something like that so it's not into in "real time" . That would have to be done by the camera manufacturers. Might be a tough sell all around
 
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