Not sure if this is correct but I was told by a gamewarden yesterday that you have to own at least 10 acres to qualify for a landowner tag. He said that this is the minimum acreage requirement by the FSA to be given a tract number. Which is what you will have to register to prove that you are a landowner. Just what I was told. I haven't seen it in writing yet.
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From now till aug 31st you can buy your landowner tags without registering as a landowner
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Too bad it doesn't go into affect today.
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Agreed. Personally I think this entire thread should just be deleted. The DNR is attempting to close a loophole, and here we are posting a new loophole on the net. Probably not a good idea.
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From now till aug 31st you can buy your landowner tags without registering as a landowner
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Too bad it doesn't go into affect today.
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Agreed. Personally I think this entire thread should just be deleted. The DNR is attempting to close a loophole, and here we are posting a new loophole on the net. Probably not a good idea.
JNRBRONC
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Unless it has changed from last year, landowners get two tags (one any sex, one antlerless only) for the issuing fee ($1), then two antlerless only tags at $11 each plus $1 issuing fee (all valid for the farm unit only). Then, landowners are eligible for any licenses that resident hunters can purchase. Confused yet?
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Not really.
I think I'm grasping it, just still kind f wondering a ballpark # of tags landowners get just b/c they own some property.
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"Some property" seems to be a common theme in this thread. I can see that someone who farms lots of ground should maybe get more tags to help limit crop damage when you have someone who has ten acres of timber/crp and he gets the same number (4)????? Doesn't quite seem right....
I would also like to address the "something for nothing" mindset. Landowner tags are not free, the first two are a buck a piece. Then, the next two antlerless only are $11 each, which is the same price that anyone can buy them after they have purchased their first $27 tag. I usually buy 5-15 tags, so when the landowner and "normal" tags are averaged togethor, I do get a "discount", but it isn't cheap, especially when one considers the crop loss I face. Don't take me wrong, I don't think that as a landowner experiencing crop damage I should have free unlimited tags. But in my situation, I don't think I'm receiving "special treatment" when I get my discounted landowner tags.
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Unless it has changed from last year, landowners get two tags (one any sex, one antlerless only) for the issuing fee ($1), then two antlerless only tags at $11 each plus $1 issuing fee (all valid for the farm unit only). Then, landowners are eligible for any licenses that resident hunters can purchase. Confused yet?
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Not really.
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"Some property" seems to be a common theme in this thread. I can see that someone who farms lots of ground should maybe get more tags to help limit crop damage when you have someone who has ten acres of timber/crp and he gets the same number (4)????? Doesn't quite seem right....
I would also like to address the "something for nothing" mindset. Landowner tags are not free, the first two are a buck a piece. Then, the next two antlerless only are $11 each, which is the same price that anyone can buy them after they have purchased their first $27 tag. I usually buy 5-15 tags, so when the landowner and "normal" tags are averaged togethor, I do get a "discount", but it isn't cheap, especially when one considers the crop loss I face. Don't take me wrong, I don't think that as a landowner experiencing crop damage I should have free unlimited tags. But in my situation, I don't think I'm receiving "special treatment" when I get my discounted landowner tags.
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I'm wondering with all the "big brother" technology out there- why someone hasn't trolled the databases for landowner tags vs. property tax receipts. Should have been easy money for the DNR.
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I'm betting that is the game plan for this year.
Further info...
LOT registration
I'm wondering with all the "big brother" technology out there- why someone hasn't trolled the databases for landowner tags vs. property tax receipts. Should have been easy money for the DNR.
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I'm betting that is the game plan for this year.
Further info...
LOT registration
dbltree
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I would also like to address the "something for nothing" mindset. Landowner tags are not free, the first two are a buck a piece. Then, the next two antlerless only are $11 each, which is the same price that anyone can buy them after they have purchased their first $27 tag. I usually buy 5-15 tags, so when the landowner and "normal" tags are averaged togethor, I do get a "discount", but it isn't cheap, especially when one considers the crop loss I face. Don't take me wrong, I don't think that as a landowner experiencing crop damage I should have free unlimited tags. But in my situation, I don't think I'm receiving "special treatment" when I get my discounted landowner tags.
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One thing I have never figured out...is why we don't have to pay $11 for the anydeer tag...and $2 for ALL the antlerless tags??
Seems silly to charge for antlerless when we are being encouraged...if not begged to reduce the herd.
Not a big deal I know, but seems like it sends the wrong message.
I think the thoughts on acreage being 10 acres would be mre likely. The rules say you have to be "activly engaged in the act of farming"...not just be a landowner...so 2 acres (despite what it might say) isn't going to get it, if they want to come after you
If you have a commercial orchard or truck garden on 2 acres...maybe
I would also like to address the "something for nothing" mindset. Landowner tags are not free, the first two are a buck a piece. Then, the next two antlerless only are $11 each, which is the same price that anyone can buy them after they have purchased their first $27 tag. I usually buy 5-15 tags, so when the landowner and "normal" tags are averaged togethor, I do get a "discount", but it isn't cheap, especially when one considers the crop loss I face. Don't take me wrong, I don't think that as a landowner experiencing crop damage I should have free unlimited tags. But in my situation, I don't think I'm receiving "special treatment" when I get my discounted landowner tags.
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One thing I have never figured out...is why we don't have to pay $11 for the anydeer tag...and $2 for ALL the antlerless tags??
Not a big deal I know, but seems like it sends the wrong message.
I think the thoughts on acreage being 10 acres would be mre likely. The rules say you have to be "activly engaged in the act of farming"...not just be a landowner...so 2 acres (despite what it might say) isn't going to get it, if they want to come after you
If you have a commercial orchard or truck garden on 2 acres...maybe
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Not sure if this is correct but I was told by a gamewarden yesterday that you have to own at least 10 acres to qualify for a landowner tag. He said that this is the minimum acreage requirement by the FSA to be given a tract number. Which is what you will have to register to prove that you are a landowner. Just what I was told. I haven't seen it in writing yet.
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Its on Page 8 of the 2006 Hunting Regulations available online at the DNR.
"Farm Unit" means all parcels of land that are in tracts of 2 or more contiguous acres that are operated as a unit for agricultural purposes and are under the lawful control of the landowner or tenant.
Not sure if this is correct but I was told by a gamewarden yesterday that you have to own at least 10 acres to qualify for a landowner tag. He said that this is the minimum acreage requirement by the FSA to be given a tract number. Which is what you will have to register to prove that you are a landowner. Just what I was told. I haven't seen it in writing yet.
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Its on Page 8 of the 2006 Hunting Regulations available online at the DNR.
"Farm Unit" means all parcels of land that are in tracts of 2 or more contiguous acres that are operated as a unit for agricultural purposes and are under the lawful control of the landowner or tenant.
I wonder who will be checking to see if a particular 2 acre tract is being used for agricultural purposes. I would think this would elminate a lot of those who own an acreage and have been getting landowner tags. Would someone who owns just timber or CRP be able to get landowner tags? I would like to see their definition or list of approved agricultural purposes?
Critter
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I wonder who will be checking to see if a particular 2 acre tract is being used for agricultural purposes. I would think this would elminate a lot of those who own an acreage and have been getting landowner tags. Would someone who owns just timber or CRP be able to get landowner tags? I would like to see their definition or list of approved agricultural purposes?
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CRP is good to go, and as far as I understand it timbered property is as long as it's enrolled in a long term reserve program, which a-lot of folks do for tax purposes. This question was brought up when the IADNR and IA Dept. of Wildlife folks had their tele-conference a few months back, I remember them stating that timbered property qualified as "agricultural".
I wonder who will be checking to see if a particular 2 acre tract is being used for agricultural purposes. I would think this would elminate a lot of those who own an acreage and have been getting landowner tags. Would someone who owns just timber or CRP be able to get landowner tags? I would like to see their definition or list of approved agricultural purposes?
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CRP is good to go, and as far as I understand it timbered property is as long as it's enrolled in a long term reserve program, which a-lot of folks do for tax purposes. This question was brought up when the IADNR and IA Dept. of Wildlife folks had their tele-conference a few months back, I remember them stating that timbered property qualified as "agricultural".
Fishbonker
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....timbered property is as long as it's enrolled in a long term reserve program, which a-lot of folks do for tax purposes. This question was brought up when the IADNR and IA Dept. of Wildlife folks had their tele-conference a few months back, I remember them stating that timbered property qualified as "agricultural".
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I remember the question too, it was "Do tree farms qualify?" and the answer was yes. If my acreage doesn't qualify this year I will become a gentelman tree farmer or maybe a gentelman persimmon grower.
The 'Bonker
....timbered property is as long as it's enrolled in a long term reserve program, which a-lot of folks do for tax purposes. This question was brought up when the IADNR and IA Dept. of Wildlife folks had their tele-conference a few months back, I remember them stating that timbered property qualified as "agricultural".
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I remember the question too, it was "Do tree farms qualify?" and the answer was yes. If my acreage doesn't qualify this year I will become a gentelman tree farmer or maybe a gentelman persimmon grower.
The 'Bonker
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2) If you have purchased a landowner's tag in the last 5 years you will be recieving a registration form in the mail any day now.
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I was talking to a co-worker at lunch, stating that landowners had to register to get landowner tags this year. He said , "Yeah, I got a letter from the DNR last week about that." Knowing that he doesn't hunt, I asked him if he had purchased a landowner/tenant license within the last 5 years (he rents a house on an acreage). He said he hadn't. Wonder who got a tag in his name?
2) If you have purchased a landowner's tag in the last 5 years you will be recieving a registration form in the mail any day now.
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I was talking to a co-worker at lunch, stating that landowners had to register to get landowner tags this year. He said , "Yeah, I got a letter from the DNR last week about that." Knowing that he doesn't hunt, I asked him if he had purchased a landowner/tenant license within the last 5 years (he rents a house on an acreage). He said he hadn't. Wonder who got a tag in his name?
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I would also like to address the "something for nothing" mindset. Landowner tags are not free, the first two are a buck a piece. Then, the next two antlerless only are $11 each, which is the same price that anyone can buy them after they have purchased their first $27 tag. I usually buy 5-15 tags, so when the landowner and "normal" tags are averaged togethor, I do get a "discount", but it isn't cheap, especially when one considers the crop loss I face. Don't take me wrong, I don't think that as a landowner experiencing crop damage I should have free unlimited tags. But in my situation, I don't think I'm receiving "special treatment" when I get my discounted landowner tags.
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Actually you are wrong in that aspect, If you use the ELSI or Online licence they do cost $1.00, but if you go to your county recorder, (Like I still do) they are free.
So I guess the question is, do I drive 12 miles with gas at $2.90 a gallon or pay the dollar online?
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I would also like to address the "something for nothing" mindset. Landowner tags are not free, the first two are a buck a piece. Then, the next two antlerless only are $11 each, which is the same price that anyone can buy them after they have purchased their first $27 tag. I usually buy 5-15 tags, so when the landowner and "normal" tags are averaged togethor, I do get a "discount", but it isn't cheap, especially when one considers the crop loss I face. Don't take me wrong, I don't think that as a landowner experiencing crop damage I should have free unlimited tags. But in my situation, I don't think I'm receiving "special treatment" when I get my discounted landowner tags.
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Actually you are wrong in that aspect, If you use the ELSI or Online licence they do cost $1.00, but if you go to your county recorder, (Like I still do) they are free.
JNRBRONC
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I would also like to address the "something for nothing" mindset. Landowner tags are not free, the first two are a buck a piece. Then, the next two antlerless only are $11 each, which is the same price that anyone can buy them after they have purchased their first $27 tag. I usually buy 5-15 tags, so when the landowner and "normal" tags are averaged togethor, I do get a "discount", but it isn't cheap, especially when one considers the crop loss I face. Don't take me wrong, I don't think that as a landowner experiencing crop damage I should have free unlimited tags. But in my situation, I don't think I'm receiving "special treatment" when I get my discounted landowner tags.
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Actually you are wrong in that aspect, If you use the ELSI or Online licence they do cost $1.00, but if you go to your county recorder, (Like I still do) they are free.
So I guess the question is, do I drive 12 miles with gas at $2.90 a gallon or pay the dollar online?
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I looked at the on-line thing today and they said there was a convience fee and a surcharge: made it look more expensive than the ELSI system at the local sporting goods store. Wish I'd have known I could get them for free at the recorder office, as it seems I have to make a trip or two there for other things: any way to save a buck!
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I would also like to address the "something for nothing" mindset. Landowner tags are not free, the first two are a buck a piece. Then, the next two antlerless only are $11 each, which is the same price that anyone can buy them after they have purchased their first $27 tag. I usually buy 5-15 tags, so when the landowner and "normal" tags are averaged togethor, I do get a "discount", but it isn't cheap, especially when one considers the crop loss I face. Don't take me wrong, I don't think that as a landowner experiencing crop damage I should have free unlimited tags. But in my situation, I don't think I'm receiving "special treatment" when I get my discounted landowner tags.
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Actually you are wrong in that aspect, If you use the ELSI or Online licence they do cost $1.00, but if you go to your county recorder, (Like I still do) they are free.
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I looked at the on-line thing today and they said there was a convience fee and a surcharge: made it look more expensive than the ELSI system at the local sporting goods store. Wish I'd have known I could get them for free at the recorder office, as it seems I have to make a trip or two there for other things: any way to save a buck!