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I know a few guys that have gotten them and a few guys that have refused, both are still paying for it 2 to 3 years later with high insurance, etc. I know a few guys in law school who have always said to refuse if asked and you know you are drunk but they can't give me any real advantages other than you have a refusing to submit on your record instead of a DUI, both look bad to insurance and on your driving record

Hopefully, Aim-n-high's story will keep anyone who reads this from ever doing it again

Kratz
 
Reality sets in when your 14 year old daughter gets her permit.

Also, when friends of hers want to pick her up and take her to a ball game.

Just tonight, I looked into a young mans eyes, knowing what I was like at his age, and I said....

"You make damn sure you get my baby girl home safely!"

We had that kind of eye contact like he knew I was "dead" serious!

She just kissed me and headed off to bed... "Night Daddy!"

I can sleep well another night...

Never thought it was possible I would make it to 30...now at 42 things look a whole lot different.

As far as the DUI thing, hope I continue to make the best decisions and stay on the farm.

Teenage kids really change your way of looking at things...that's for sure.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ghost</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reality sets in when your 14 year old daughter gets her permit.

Also, when friends of hers want to pick her up and take her to a ball game.

Just tonight, I looked into a young mans eyes, knowing what I was like at his age, and I said....

"You make damn sure you get my baby girl home safely!"

We had that kind of eye contact like he knew I was "dead" serious!

She just kissed me and headed off to bed... "Night Daddy!"

I can sleep well another night...

Never thought it was possible I would make it to 30...now at 42 things look a whole lot different.

As far as the DUI thing, hope I continue to make the best decisions and stay on the farm.

Teenage kids really change your way of looking at things...that's for sure.

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Man Kent, that stuff scares the crap out of me and my daughter is only 7. My boy is 13 and I'm worried as hell!!!!!!
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GOLD TIP</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ghost</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reality sets in when your 14 year old daughter gets her permit.

Also, when friends of hers want to pick her up and take her to a ball game.

Just tonight, I looked into a young mans eyes, knowing what I was like at his age, and I said....

"You make damn sure you get my baby girl home safely!"

We had that kind of eye contact like he knew I was "dead" serious!

She just kissed me and headed off to bed... "Night Daddy!"

I can sleep well another night...

Never thought it was possible I would make it to 30...now at 42 things look a whole lot different.

As far as the DUI thing, hope I continue to make the best decisions and stay on the farm.

Teenage kids really change your way of looking at things...that's for sure.

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Man Kent, that stuff scares the crap out of me and my daughter is only 7. My boy is 13 and I'm worried as hell!!!!!! </div></div>My boys are the same age as your kids Gold Tip,and I have started telling my older boy that you will never get in trouble giving me a call at anytime to get a ride home if who you are with people making bad choices. And it is scary knowing all the stupid stuff I did in my younger days.
 
I have to agree with (timekiller) sure there are stories out there of how someone beat a conviction, but there is no for sure way or quick fix, other than don't do it. Your asking how to beat a law, so if I told you how to beat a poching law would you do it? Just think a head, if you go out take a cab home, or some other means. If you try some of these ideas that we've heard your only going to look like a dunbass on T.V., heck look at O.J. Simpson. I dont think i'd bet my future on anthing my buddy or some other idiot tells you.
 
Prior to moving to investigations, I was very busy with OWI traffic stops. I have testified in many jury trials where the driver refused to consent to a breath test and one of them he refused all sobriety tests. All resulted convictions. A jury of your piers is smarter than you might think.

As far as pulling over and consuming more......I think that the jury would quickly figure that out too. Taking the keys out of the ignition wouldn't help since the officer already saw you driving.

One OWI is an accident and as mentioned above, many have made that mistake. Two or more.......no excuse! Talk to anyone who has lost a love one to a drunk driver, hear what they went through, and then realize that person might be in a jury that will decide your fate.

Instead of thinking of ways to get out of it, plan ahead, have a designated driver. If my son gets two OWI's in a week you can bet I won't be paying a penny to get him a school permit!

I have also had the displeasure of delivering death notifications to people who have lost loved ones to impaired drivers so if I sound emotional about this topic, please forgive me. I completely quit drinking almost 10 years ago because of the things I have seen in this job.
 
Sorry for the misunderstanding; it was a client of mine and she has two different sons of hers that both got OWI's in a week. Good to see the law enforcement views. Have you ever had a driver refuse to submit until his lawyer was present?

There is a lawyer in Des Moines, IA that specializes in OWI DUI cases. He is a habitual violater himself, and for legal purposes I am not going to state his name. He has been charged with OWI at least 6 times, if my memory serves me right, according to a story several years ago by the Des Moines Register newspaper. He has beat every case, but one. He states that he has a right to have his attorney present to make sure all sobriety tests are performed properly, plus witnessed by someone other than law enforcement. He calls his attorney friend and by the time his attorney friend shows up 4-6 hours later, he is legally sober. A friend of mine hired him to fight a DUI and my friend got a deferred sentence due to some improper procedures the police performed with the testing and the improper reason for pulling him over in the 1st place. This lawyer told my friend to keep his business card on him and in the future ,to tell the law enforcement that he will submit to sobriety tests when his lawyer is present and only then. He states that EVERY individual has the right to legal councel when being investigated for a crime.
 
HCH, you have the right to consult an attorney or family member prior to submitting a sample. BUT, waiting four to six hours for an atty to show won't fly since there are time limitations involved.
 
Probably why they finally gave him an OWI on his 6th charge. /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif Too much to lose with drinking and driving these days. The legal alcohol content is so low and the fines are way high.
I like going to Canada too, not to mention my life.
Brian, what is it now; two beers in an hour for an average man to be legally drunk?
 
I don't of any "standard" for what they say it takes to get drunk, but I think I remember hearing something like you'd be fine drinking one per hour. Everyone's tolerance is different, and a big factor is if you've eaten anything.

As far as getting rid of it, when I was in the jail we could have a pretty good idea when people would be able to get out by figuring they would drop about .02 per hour.
 
"A jury of your piers is smarter than you might think."

As I sit home drinking- I challenge you to a spelling contest. Peers are for the jury, piers are for boats.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">spelling contest </div></div>

You must be drinking because he spelled it right.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Limb Chicken</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">spelling contest </div></div>

You must be drinking because he spelled it right. </div></div>

You're right he spelled it right, it wasn't used correctly for the spelling. And yes, I've had my evening nosh.

The 'Bonker
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You're right he spelled it right, it wasn't used correctly for the spelling. </div></div>

But, the spelling was correct... /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif So, perhaps this contest would better be suited as a word usage contest.

I tend to side with people that can put me in jail. Wayne, I knew what you meant buddy. /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
 
Being spelled correctly has nothing to do with a word that doesn't have a red line under it. Doesn't mean I wouldn't agree with him when the red lights were flashing. :-)
 
I know more than a few people that go to Canada every year that have DWIs. Like others said, sometimes you can slide through they dont run your license other times you arent going across. I beleive you can fill out the paper work and pay the 200.

Dean
 
On your paperwork, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae and you have $200
 
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