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Jdubs said:
I say we over regulate farming in the this country, like we do every other lucrative business, take the money out of it, import all of our produce from other countries, put thousands of families out of work; while blaming the Republican party for the alleged problems. Sounds like a plan.
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Lol.....dumb. I think greed is apparent. Why not just say if you don't have crp, wetlands, or filter strips, you get no direct subsidies...which need eliminated anyway. That way, it may make it more beneficial for people to leave some of the low CSR acres in native grasses, which by the way helps clean the water. I love that you think we don't need regulations on an industry that has a ginornous effect in water and air quality. Poor farmers. My dad got a check for $20k a year or two ago...hell...he didn't text even know why. My final straw was a neighbor who took out all his filter strips, which is fine...but then he told me that Iowa is for farming, if you wanna hunt...go west.
 
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Agreed with the assessment of the regulation comment. Apparently the idea that we need to take a little responsibility for the present and future impact of our actions escapes some people. For those interested, I vote strongly on the republican side of things---I believe this means that the individual states should have more control over how they regulate things. I do not, however, believe that caring for our environment and voting republican need to be mutually exclusive--especially for those of us that our outdoorsman. What would be great is if we didn't have a government that picks and chooses what industries will/will not make it based on subsidies.
 
montanadan said:
Agreed with the assessment of the regulation comment. Apparently the idea that we need to take a little responsibility for the present and future impact of our actions escapes some people. For those interested, I vote strongly on the republican side of things---I believe this means that the individual states should have more control over how they regulate things. I do not, however, believe that caring for our environment and voting republican need to be mutually exclusive--especially for those of us that our outdoorsman. What would be great is if we didn't have a government that picks and chooses what industries will/will not make it based on subsidies.
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The two party system needs to die. People root for their party like a sports team, regardless of the issue and whether their party comes in on the wrong side of an issue.
 
Mike311 said:
It's called politics. They do good things also, example: last week a district court judge in Carroll County ruled the State Electrical Board was over stepping its bounds requiring farmers to have all repairs and new installations to there facilities subject to inspections. It was just another way for a state/government entity to get our money and onto our property. Call/write Farm Bureau and let them know your stand on deer populations, they'll listen.
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So farmers are exempt from paying a $150 dollar permit. Wow I cant believe how greedy farmers are getting crying about a 150 dollar permit fee. Being an electrician and doing work on farms I would like to say that they have some of the most screwed up electrical out of anywhere. Why should farmers be exempt of having there work inspected.
 
Alright Chiro, eliminate the two party system and go to what, a one party system or what some refer to as a dictatorship. I love how capitalists are called greedy unitl you're the one making the money. Either way our system of economics and government are the best, even with the problems, the world has ever seen. Move elsewhere and compare the government leadership. You'll run back. I'll go out on a limb and say you're in college, barely out of college, or in your twenties.
 
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spermwhale said:
So farmers are exempt from paying a $150 dollar permit. Wow I cant believe how greedy farmers are getting crying about a 150 dollar permit fee. Being an electrician and doing work on farms I would like to say that they have some of the most screwed up electrical out of anywhere. Why should farmers be exempt of having there work inspected.
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The farmers aren't greedy the State Examining board is thanks to former Governor Culver and his minions taking more money from we the peoples pockets by creating new licensing, exam fees for all the tradesmen. In the end it was just a revenue generating sceem. I would ask, how do you like paying for your continuing education to maintain your license and then paying the renewal fee not to mention the time away from family/hunting which most trades people do not get paid while doing these things. My hats off to the farmers who fought and won this battle, will help all trades. As with any purchase you make you get what you pay for, make an informed decision as to who you hire. Good conversation.
 
Jdubs said:
Alright Chiro, eliminate the two party system and go to what, a one party system or what some refer to as a dictatorship. I love how capitalists are called greedy unitl you're the one making the money. Either way our system of economics and government are the best, even with the problems, the world has ever seen. Move elsewhere and compare the government leadership. You'll run back. I'll go out on a limb and say you're in college, barely out of college, or in your twenties.
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Mid thirties..well educated. Ok, so because I said the two party system sucks, you think I want a dictatorship. God, I wonder what our forefathers would think about us today. We are weak minded, sheeple, following our "party" instead of examining each issue on it's own merits. Also, where do I bash capitalism? If you're trying to extrapolate my politics from my posts, don't, it won't work. I ran my precinct's republican caucus, we just have crappy candidates now. Anyway, I love America, but to deny what's going in with subsidies and intensive farming is akin to ignoring blood in your urine. It's gonna get worse.
 
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Capitalism is under attack everyday by the EPA, OSHA, etc. under the guise of saving the environment. I want the planet to thrive as well but over regulation by these, and other agencies, have caused manufacturing, oil industry, gas industry, etc. to leave because they can't afford to operate. We could lift half of the EPA regulations and still be the most environmentally friendly country in the world. If were not careful farming will be next. I don't farm and I'm sure some of the issues you mention need to be addressed but be careful how much of a door you open to government regulation. I apologize for being wrong about your age, it's obvious your'e well spoken btw.
 
IowaChiro said:
Lol.....dumb. I think greed is apparent. Why not just say if you don't have crp, wetlands, or filter strips, you get no direct subsidies...which need eliminated anyway. That way, it may make it more beneficial for people to leave some of the low CSR acres in native grasses, which by the way helps clean the water. I love that you think we don't need regulations on an industry that has a ginornous effect in water and air quality. Poor farmers. My dad got a check for $20k a year or two ago...hell...he didn't text even know why. My final straw was a neighbor who took out all his filter strips, which is fine...but then he told me that Iowa is for farming, if you wanna hunt...go west.
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Nitrates is nothing new. Sediment in rivers and streams was started many moons ago. With 600 acres you surely have quality bird habitat in place for you to hunt. And you claim to be Republican. Why would you want to regulate or tell your neighbors how to manage their land? And by the way I have several acres of native grass and I'm a loner when I drop subsidies as fast as I can when buying property with them in place at purchase. Don't believe in them. And don't claim either party. But what I'm hearing is you and others want to control your neighbors which has caused lots of problems in California and is the same as forcing gun control. This grain market is not new either. Time will pass and some brush will return. Probably be a time when big farms and their equipment will not farm the smaller pea patches. Can't turn around anywhere.
 
Funny thing is the ones pushing for state wide licensing was insurance companies. There were too many fires from non educated people thinking they can wire. I started in am area where inspections were already in place. So I have always had licensing fees. I bust my butt to make money and don't get govt subsidies for electrical work. Why can't the farmers that are crying about the small permit fee just file for a electrical permit subsidy from the govt?
 
goatman said:
Nitrates is nothing new. Sediment in rivers and streams was started many moons ago. With 600 acres you surely have quality bird habitat in place for you to hunt. And you claim to be Republican. Why would you want to regulate or tell your neighbors how to manage their land? And by the way I have several acres of native grass and I'm a loner when I drop subsidies as fast as I can when buying property with them in place at purchase. Don't believe in them. And don't claim either party. But what I'm hearing is you and others want to control your neighbors which has caused lots of problems in California and is the same as forcing gun control. This grain market is not new either. Time will pass and some brush will return. Probably be a time when big farms and their equipment will not farm the smaller pea patches. Can't turn around anywhere.
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Nitrates isn't new, but it's getting worse. My dad doesn't have a shred of cover, he was ahead of his time with a dozer and tiling machine. The gun control compariaon is ludicrous, comparing a guaranteed freedom in the Bill of Rights, to tje ability to dump tons of nitrates into the water supply. Sediments are also going to get worse. I don't want to hamstring people's income. They, the farmers, are making a truckload of money, the majority of which they would make even without farming shit ground. What they do with and on the land, intentionally or not, effects everyone down stream. You are right about grain markets to some degree, wheat boomed in the 20's, which led to land rape, which led to the dust bowl. Also, if farmers who take subsidies had to have some crp or filter strips, I would win in either of two ways...reducing welfare or imoroving water quality and habitat. If they opt out...I win...if they opt in...even better.
 
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15,000 dollar an acre ground is going to change the landscape even more than it has now. I like to hunt, and am a farmer also but the bottom line is $$$$$$.
 
spikebuck said:
15,000 dollar an acre ground is going to change the landscape even more than it has now. I like to hunt, and am a farmer also but the bottom line is $$$$$$.
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Leaving a legacy and having your descendants be able to enjoy hunting must not mean much to you.
 
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