well i finally got to let the smoke fly.. had a doe at 65yards it was 445 and sunset is at 500.. i was watching her for about 10-15 min.. triing to deside if i wanted to shoot her i look around and watching her and she gave no sign of any other deer around so i waited intill she was broad side then i pulled the trigger.. all i seen was smoke then i seen her run off.. waited for about 20 min.. then i went to find a great blood trail.. i walk to a raven that she ran to.. looked down there she was at the botton dead.. thought man this is going to be fun.. went to get the rope and call for help..and no one was home go figure lol .. so i when down a 300ft reven felt like 300 miles lol took about 30min to get her out...but i will post pic later... it not a big deer but its my dead deer lol it looked bigger and felt bigger hauling it up the reven lol.. but it all worth it ...now i have one tag to fill the bow tag... soory for the missed spelled words lol