trpr- I had I-114 and a friend of his with me on the second day of second season. Fired up a bird at 9:00, dead at 9:30, weighing in at 24.5 lbs. Went to a second area, fired up a bird at 10:30, I shot him at 10:45 with my TK2000 Knight Muzzleloader with scope, and due to my positioning got a pretty good scope bite during the shot. Ended up killing the bird dead at plus 40 yards, then went to get 8 stitches to close the half-moon up between my eyes. When I left, I-114 and his buddy stayed and hunted the same spot and soon after I departed he shot a 15 pound jake. Of course we have some good blood pictures of my face and a helluva story for the 2002 season. This is the third year in a row they have hunted down hear with me and everytime on a Saturday we all kill out. This is the first time we had to go to a different location though. Great hunting. And, I too, agree with you on the enjoyment of hunting with family and experiencing the great outdoors. I just got back from two weeks of hunting in Missouri and I took my wife hunting with me yesterday, she thought when the sun came up and she began to get warm, it would be better to take a nap then to hunt. Oh well, I still enjoyed the time in the woods.... Take care- Full-Strut