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What general area are you in Curtis? I'm in keokuk co and I think things are moving this week more than ever. Of course the cold helps.
 
CurtisWalker said:
Saw the buck this morning, I hit him high above the spine. It was nice to see him fine and healthy..
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Are you sure you hit high above the spine? Have honestly never heard of someone hitting that high and missing the spine. Are you sure it was the same buck? Maybe you were looking at a wound caused from fighting or from going under fences. (missing hair)
 
We also searched both properties we believed he went yesterday. With no more sign of blood and no beds with bed. I also had a guy who has bowhunted for 20 years come out and track with me. He looked at the blood and said it looked like muscle blood and there wasn't enough for it to be in the chest cavity or liver and that it wasn't gut blood.
 
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CurtisWalker said:
We also searched both properties we believed he went yesterday. With no more sign of blood and no beds with bed. I also had a guy who has bowhunted for 20 years come out and track with me. He looked at the blood and said it looked like muscle blood and there wasn't enough for it to be in the chest cavity or liver and that it wasn't gut blood.
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Those two spots on a deer are fairly far apart, not sure how you went from chest to liver to above the spine??? Are you and Teenagehunter aren't brothers???

I can promise you that if you grazed him, you didn't have blood for 300 yds. I'm also throwing the BS flag that your buddy is able to tell muscle blood from any other type of blood. The blood that flows through the veins and arteries that feed the muscles is the same blood flowing through the heart and lungs. Only way your distinguishing which organs you shot such as a gut shot and a liver shot, it upon impact. Gut shots have the obvious fecal matter and smell, your liver shots are a darker blood and well your lungs shots are bright bubbly pink blood.
 
Booner said:
Those two spots on a deer are fairly far apart, not sure how you went from chest to liver to above the spine??? Are you and Teenagehunter aren't brothers???

I can promise you that if you grazed him, you didn't have blood for 300 yds. I'm also throwing the BS flag that your buddy is able to tell muscle blood from any other type of blood. The blood that flows through the veins and arteries that feed the muscles is the same blood flowing through the heart and lungs. Only way your distinguishing which organs you shot such as a gut shot and a liver shot, it upon impact. Gut shots have the obvious fecal matter and smell, your liver shots are a darker blood and well your lungs shots are bright bubbly pink blood.
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It wasn't constant blood it was just a big drop maybe once every twenty yards and sometimes farther.. Yes I know where the organs are. I wasn't sure where I hit him we were guessing from the signs and trying to determine by the blood. And yes I also know all the blood is the same blood, being a premed student. But you can tell a difference in how the color of the blood is and how it is oxygenated. We thought liver at first because it was darker but it would have been bleeding a lot more than it was. There was no fecal matter in the blood either. If you want to come look at the blood and search with me some more than come on over,.
 
Oh yeah, definitely a "no mans land" above the spine. I've heard many instances of people hitting that area and the deer is never recovered and shows back up later healthy and well.
 
FWIW... I hit a deer above the spine many years ago. He lived on. My buddy shot him 3 days later. We inspected the wound,and it looked like it was over a month old.
 
Curtis- you are a premed student and put in how many hours?! Most of those kids I know dont get that many hours to be in a stand...
 
flugge said:
Curtis- you are a premed student and put in how many hours?! Most of those kids I know dont get that many hours to be in a stand...
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I'm a sophomore and currently majoring in biology for pre-med but am changing to just biology due to the fact I'm not as interested in med school anymore. I took a lot of college classes in high school which took a lot of the load off too.
 
Wow, smart kid! Not going to lie, pretty impressed! By no means was it meant to be picking on you or anything like that... just fyi
 
Sorry you lost your deer-it definitely is learning endeavor like anything in life. ENJOY this time when you have less responsibility and time for you. One day you will look back and say, "How did I ever have time to spend X amount of time in a tree :)"

I usually always leave them overnight or 24 hours if they go more than 150 yards or a find a bed. Also, almost alll wounds over the spine will be fine barring infection etc-never know. There is no void "under" the spine but it sits much lower than most think. Good news is its either ok above, dead at the impact sight with a spine shot or double lung.

The lungs are not all created equal, as the vessels change as they move posteriorly and if you DO NOT create a vaccuum, then the deer can do forever-sometimes surviving for a LONG time. Blood color also can cause you to make decisions but one mans red is anothers dark red. After it dries all bets are off IMO.

Arrows dont lie so really always try to find that shaft and see what it tells you visually and with odor. You have a good start and will have a great time chasing these whitetails. They will beat you 9/10 times but thats why we do it.
 
When I was a student at ISU I put in MANY hours a week in the stand while still pulling good grades- it is all about priorities and paying attention in class. If you go to class- its amazing how little of studying I had to do outside of the classroom or off campus. And I got the partying behind me my first few years of college overseas and was all about school the last two at ISU- school work- social life and many hours in the stand can be accomplished with a great work ethic- It speaks volumes to the person who can accomplish such and should help out with the job process after college as well- people will take notice - hats off and more power to ya for getting out there as much as you do!!
 
BDAHMS said:
When I was a student at ISU I put in MANY hours a week in the stand while still pulling good grades- it is all about priorities and paying attention in class. If you go to class- its amazing how little of studying I had to do outside of the classroom or off campus. And I got the partying behind me my first few years of college overseas and was all about school the last two at ISU- school work- social life and many hours in the stand can be accomplished with a great work ethic- It speaks volumes to the person who can accomplish such and should help out with the job process after college as well- people will take notice - hats off and more power to ya for getting out there as much as you do!!
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The thing that helps me a lot too is that I have never drank alcohol even when I went to Iowa. It was all about getting my work done then pursuing my hobbies. And with living at home now I can hunt every afternoon and morning and still have time at night to do all my work.
 
I want to thank every one for their help also through out this ordeal. I've learned a lot and it helps know people are willing to help especially since I have taught myself everything that goes with bowhunting it helps to have people to consult and learn from
 
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