Harvest Data

[dbltree]

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It was no treat trying to get all those numbers in that little box when it was 15 degrees last weekend.

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I tried putting my ink pen in my front pocket...and it still wouldn't work it was so doggone cold!

After that I used a fine point felt marker which worked much better

I made the mistake of putting the wrong tag on a deer last year (not and illegal tag...but not the one I intended

) so I started marking on them when I get home, also with a <font color="red">RED </font> fine point felt pen... <font color="red"> anydeer </font>, <font color="red"> antlerless X or Z county </font> etc. otherwise they are very easy to mix up!

I'm not sure what a CO would say but I just lightly stuck the tag on a leg until I either got to a hill where I could call or home to use the online system.

Then I took the tag off...reported it, wrote the #'s on it and then fastened it on securely.

To dang hard to write on a deers leg

I noticed at the locker, they wrote down the tag#...the guys went home and called the # in. The locker said all they need is the tag#...dunno...

 

[JNRBRONC]

An article in last Friday's CR Gazette quotes Mr. Suchy as saying they hope for 100% reporting but other states that made the switch to electronic had 80-90% compliance the first year.

I talked to one of those 20% last night.

 

[dbltree]

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I talked to one of those 20% last night.

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I can only guess at the "farm deer"...that aren't getting reported..

 

[Fishbonker]

80% capture in any "survey" study is considered a huge success. Bigger descisions than deer limits have been decided on less information. I know of a few policy changes inacted (work related) after a less than 1% return on a survey.

Even if only 80% report its better than filling out cards and mailing them back in. I wonder what the capture rate was on those? I bet that info is avaiable somewhere.

Well, is it 80% of kills get reported or 80% of hunters succesfuly kill a deer? I'd have to guess the former and not the latter.

You can't beat fun with numbers, I think it was Mark Twain who is creditied with the saying there are three kinds of lies, Lies, Damned lies and Statistics.

The 'Bonker

 

[CamoMan]

I agree strongly with the split tag idea. There's no reason they can't make them like they did a couple years ago where part of the tag peeled off, and part stayed attatched. That would make reporting easier, and I do believe it would increase the reporting rate a bit.

 

[dbltree]

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there are three kinds of lies, Lies, Damned lies and Statistics.


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We'll take 80% over past methods anyday!

I was visiting with the folks at the locker last year about the tags... how difficult they were to write on etc.

They told me that they had talked to the DNR (whomever stops in a takes reports etc.) who told them it would have to be taken up with the manufacturer of the tags. (as if the DNR had nothing do with the design, material etc.)

Seems kind of odd to me and of course he may have been mistaken, but one would think changes could be made to the tag including maybe a 2 part tag.

I know it's not the best deal but I suppose it costs money to change...so we can probably scratch it off the list

 

[G6]

They need a tag that doesn't get brittle and tear off like mine did this year. I vote for the two part tag also since it worked great before. I know the tags I have seen made of something like Tyvec &lt;sp&gt; are indestructable and would be easy to write on.

 

[letemwalk]

Online reporting was super easy. I do agree with the split tag suggestions above - kind of a pain to write in the cold although a sharpie marker seemed to work the best.

 

[dbltree]

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I talked to one of those 20% last night.

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I can only guess at the "farm deer"...that aren't getting reported..

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I've been doing a little "research"

and I can see a lot of folks around here have a real "attitude" about the reporting and DNR in general.

Basically when I brought up "did you have any problem with reporting your deer"?...they bluntly told me where the DNR could stick their harvest report

I asked some if they didn't think it was important for our DNR to know how many deer were taken to better manage our deer herd...but quickly figured out it was a sore subject

I'd really like to know what the penalty is for not reporting?

I think if some of these fellas saw some fines paid they might change their minds....
but then again....maybe not

 

[gersdorf]

I talked to a guy the other day and he and one of his sons couldn't get through and kept getting cut off so they said screw it. I too wonder what the fine would be

 

[JNRBRONC]

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There's no reason they can't make them like they did a couple years ago where part of the tag peeled off, and part stayed attatched.

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I wonder if the new ELISA system is not "compatible" with that type of "media". They might be limited in what adhesive labels will print. I would guess that the state selected a system/vendor for ELISA and this might have limited their options.

 

[Blaster]

I think when they get all the bugs worked out that people will report more. But if they keep having problems like i had reporting our groups deer them people will say screw it.

 

[bowmaker]

I reported our 4 deer this weekend with one call and found that even I can say ONE, DOE, NINE so there is no excuse for not reporting. If the valadation number is not on the transportation tag it is not a legal harvest and should be subject to the same fines and penilities that any paocher would get. It boggles my mind that anyone could oppose such a simple requirement, and it is not optional, it is a requirement!

 

[Tom]

Willie, the system works great.

However, I would like to see a multiple part tag. (maybe one for the leg, one for the antlers and one to remain with the hunter). Manitoba does it that way and it works slick.

The multi-part tag could also streamline the "hassle factor" associated with the reporting process

 

[dbltree]

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no excuse for not reporting. If the valadation number is not on the transportation tag it is not a legal harvest and should be subject to the same fines and penalties that any poacher would get. It boggles my mind that anyone could oppose such a simple requirement, and it is not optional, it is a requirement!

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That's what I was thinking, but I suspect unless a CO has a specific report...nothing will be done.

Little tougher once it's in the freezer

Still a lot of folks hereabouts that oppose anything the DNR comes up with