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[hans1]

I have wondered about who the Iowa Landowner Freedom Coalition is also. Thier Lobbyist has spoken every time i have been up at the capital. They also supported the Depredation Bill.

 

[JNRBRONC]

I have wondered about who the Iowa Landowner Freedom Coalition is also. Thier Lobbyist has spoken every time i have been up at the capital. They also supported the Depredation Bill.

Brad Epperly CWL Group in article

Lobbyists

Kind of vague.

 

[Muskrat24]

I like the basic idea of this Bill. I think the acreage needs to be increased. I would also put a retroactive clause meaning this would apply to owners that owned land as of 12/31/2022. Make a 2 year exclusion for new landowners.
Done correctly this will still protect resident access, while still giving some preference to non resident landowners

I don’t get the push for Iowa legislators to do anything to benefit NRLO…. If we start to go down this path then what incentive to be a resident? Plus it will only create more demand for the limited hunting acres in Iowa. Why on earth would an Iowa elected official look out for the interest of NRLO over their own constituents. Is the message not clear enough that the Iowa deer herd is going backwards and resident hunters are losing opportunity and quality hunting experience?

 

[Muskrat24]

Very true. Also, many non landowners contribute more to the overall economy of the state and possibly more to conservation than some landowners. It’s quite the can of worms for sure.


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Bad point. State income taxes, living in Iowa 365 days, etc, buying daily necessities…. NRLO are not net benefit compared to residents. Can NRLO get forest reserve?

 

[Muskrat24]

It’s about conservation contribution and maintenance not the overall economy. That’s an old argument. I’m a former nrlo , now a resident landowner. IMO nrlos should get one tag. Not be put in the nr draw with non residents who come for a week and contribute nothing. If Iowa doesn’t want this dilemma do not permit nr land ownership. My opinion.

The issue is, if all NRLO got a tag just for owning the land, hunting in Iowa would be out of reach of residents and the State has recognized this at least in the past. This would be a net loss in revenue from tag sales, income taxes, employment etc. Other states, for now, can offer those options because more huntable acres. Why would someone not buy in MO, KS, SD, etc where they can get a NRLO each year, oh that’s right because they are not Iowa when it comes to hunting. People are still willing to buy rec ground in Iowa knowing they have to draw, so what would happen if they knew they could buy rec ground in Iowa and get a NRLO tag each year, no stopping land prices and the spiraling out of control of hunting for residents that do not own land.

 

[Windlooker]

Bad point. State income taxes, living in Iowa 365 days, etc, buying daily necessities…. NRLO are not net benefit compared to residents. Can NRLO get forest reserve?

Yes. They can get forest reserve.

 

[booneriverbucks]

Bad point. State income taxes, living in Iowa 365 days, etc, buying daily necessities…. NRLO are not net benefit compared to residents. Can NRLO get forest reserve?

I think you might have read my original post wrong…. I am 100%% against any increase in non-resident access. I was saying a non landowning RESIDENT has ways to contribute WAY more to conservation than a non resident landowner. I personally contribute a bunch to several conservation groups and would whether I owned land here or not. And pay WAY more taxes to this state than many non resident landowners ever do. Sick of hearing the property tax stuff from non res. That land is going to be owned either way. It’s a bs excuse

 

[Muskrat24]

So way I understand it…. They got rid of the 600 tags for nrlo’s with 40 acres. . The shuffled how draw works like above said. I got a summary from legislator on the changes so I’m second hand trying to relay what I think I understand….
The PROBLEMS with this bill, the main one, is gone. Done. What remains- fine. Minor & really doesn’t hurt anything.

To be clear, IMO- playing with fire with issues like “tags if u own xyz acres”. If it’s not “500 acres” - ground will be chopped up. Even 500 would displace a lot of folks & I agree it would help in other areas though. We need to STOP….

Here’s the discussion I had today with a legislator With a lot of influence & oversight into our state. My question or statment… “can’t we FIRST address the problems our resource & residents are facing? While some special interests wanna bring up _____ special interest- whatever it is. Why aren’t we tackling the huge issues hurting the whole state & your voters? Areas decimated for deer #’s. Lack of access that YOU hear getting louder & more problematic. Too much killing, too many seasons, too many tags If anything - rein this in. Don’t focus on all these silly issues that don’t fix big problems!” RESPONSE: “Agree”.

Once we have our resource in right direction & #1 & #2 issues for Iowa hunters improving (access to land & a quality hunting experience with decent #’s) …. Then let’s talk about other issues. Until then- stop with these ridiculous bills that r fueled by a handful that want benefits to them or their special interest group. No more outfitter tags. No more incentives for ____ whatever group.
If anything - let’s reduce some tags for Residents. Swing the pendulum towards tightening things up vs making it more crazy while most hunters across state are struggling on countless levels.

So we are incentivizing NR landownership and giving them an easier route to a tag!?!? How many more NR will buy small tracts or even large tracts knowing they will have an easier chance than 1 in 6 years to get a bow license. Buy in another state if you want to hunt every year. Or become a resident. Don’t mess up our system. (You referring to NRLO). As I have stated there is not one thing on the list of bills that is positive to the average Iowa deer hunter.

 

[Sligh1]

So we are incentivizing NR landownership and giving them an easier route to a tag!?!? How many more NR will buy small tracts or even large tracts knowing they will have an easier chance than 1 in 6 years to get a bow license. Buy in another state if you want to hunt every year. Or become a resident. Don’t mess up our system. (You referring to NRLO). As I have stated there is not one thing on the list of bills that is positive to the average Iowa deer hunter.

I was against the bill for 600 tags going to NRLO’s. I know that part was taken out. Which was critical. How it got moved or shuffled….. up for debate with what it got changed to. Your concerns are valid & need to be expressed. By far, The worst of the bill is GONE. Keep the debate going & contact legislators on the changes.