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mthelen
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Those are good harvest to hunter numbers, but what are the harvested to acres leased numbers?
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Those harvest numbers are for around 7000 plus acres, they lease, in my opinion shooting only 17 deer in 7000 acres in not considered QDM. And dont let orion fool ya, hes a trophy hunter truer that true. The buck in his avatar on that post Ghost referred to was one they referred to as a non-shooter and had somewhere around a 1500 dollar fine if you shot him. Guess they thought he would get bigger. Well that buck is now dead. He was shot by a local hunter about 3 miles away and scored somewhere around 192 gross.
Those are good harvest to hunter numbers, but what are the harvested to acres leased numbers?
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Those harvest numbers are for around 7000 plus acres, they lease, in my opinion shooting only 17 deer in 7000 acres in not considered QDM. And dont let orion fool ya, hes a trophy hunter truer that true. The buck in his avatar on that post Ghost referred to was one they referred to as a non-shooter and had somewhere around a 1500 dollar fine if you shot him. Guess they thought he would get bigger. Well that buck is now dead. He was shot by a local hunter about 3 miles away and scored somewhere around 192 gross.
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PMA Member
I am in total agreement with fredbeartrx. What Orion is doing to Southwest Iowa is not good what should be considered QDM. I am also one of the unfortunate people that no longer gets to hunt places that are now leased to Orion. Although Orion does have a few resident hunters in the group, the bucks that are harvested always seem to find their way into the hands of Orion himself and other non-resident members. Orion is not a good representation of QDM. But hats off the to local who stuck it out this season and killed the 192".
avidhunter
New Member
The unfortunate truth is that neither the DNR nor the Iowa Legislature gives a rats ass about resident hunters. We are the minority. The majority of the public care not about preserving the quality of the Iowa deer herd for the next generation, nor do they care about increasing access to quality hunting ground; they do however respond in knee-jerk fashion to the outcry of overpopulation, which has been a banner long waved by the insurance industry.
IMHO, I believe that the only hope we have to save our sport, is to make our voices heard by editorializing our plight in local newspapers, stumping on Capitol hill in Des Moines: making an emphatic plea to the masses in some organized way so as to garner the undivided attention of the legislature and the DNR.
Until this happens, the Legislators will continue to pander to Insurance Lobbyists, and the under-educated masses.
I personally called and spoke with several Legislators last year, and even sent dozens of emails to these yokels. They were all polite, but completely unmovable...
IMHO, I believe that the only hope we have to save our sport, is to make our voices heard by editorializing our plight in local newspapers, stumping on Capitol hill in Des Moines: making an emphatic plea to the masses in some organized way so as to garner the undivided attention of the legislature and the DNR.
Until this happens, the Legislators will continue to pander to Insurance Lobbyists, and the under-educated masses.
I personally called and spoke with several Legislators last year, and even sent dozens of emails to these yokels. They were all polite, but completely unmovable...
Our biggest problem is that outdoorsmen as a whole are passive in the political arena.
VERY FEW of us actually talk to our folks representing us in the legislature. It seems we may have a good response on this site, but I know nobody outside of my close friends, IBA members and many on here who actually take time to get it done. Ask your represenative how many people have contacted them on these issues!
I know I sound like a broken record, but that's the facts. Until we by in large get more proactive, we will have to eat what they serve. Simple as that. If you think about it, we are hanging ourselves in our own way.
VERY FEW of us actually talk to our folks representing us in the legislature. It seems we may have a good response on this site, but I know nobody outside of my close friends, IBA members and many on here who actually take time to get it done. Ask your represenative how many people have contacted them on these issues!
I know I sound like a broken record, but that's the facts. Until we by in large get more proactive, we will have to eat what they serve. Simple as that. If you think about it, we are hanging ourselves in our own way.