bronson ridgerunners
New Member
No time to think that much at that time, so it would be easy to pick. (170)
blake
Life Member
Dang muddy, you are talking about a difference of 45 inches in bone here………. /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif
I would like to think that I would take the 125 incher due to the history……….. /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif
Perhaps I could let the younger buck pass and grow and take the more mature deer………….. /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif
But then again………………….. /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
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Gladiator
PMA Member
Definitely the 170...not sure I'll ever have one in front of me, so I better take it while I can get it...
It's kind of like that scenario on the Kisky's where the one fella (can't remember his name) is about ready to shoot a mid 170's and a 230 incher walks out and he just misses him high...that was an awesome hunt...would have been the largest ever recorded on film.
It's kind of like that scenario on the Kisky's where the one fella (can't remember his name) is about ready to shoot a mid 170's and a 230 incher walks out and he just misses him high...that was an awesome hunt...would have been the largest ever recorded on film.
hillrunner
PMA Member
Ive killed a couple really old bucks . I doubt I have ever layed eyes on a 170 while hunting. No question in my mind .
SEIowaDeerslayer
Well-Known Member
I'd shoot the 125, inches aren't everything to me! I'll take an old warrior anyday!
nannyslayer
New Member
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SEIowaDeerslayer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> inches aren't everything to me! </div></div>
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Grasshopper
New Member
Oh crap. I've been mulling this one around for a whole day (too dern much time on a riding lawn mower), and decided I have no idea what I'd do until it happened. And here's why:
Long time ago I had a farm I hunted in Wisconsin. There was a piebald (partial albino) doe living there that was something of a local fixture...7 or 8 years old, gorgeous thing, white patches all over her like an Appaloosa horse. Lots of guys, including me, wanted a crack at her. (Albinos are protected in WI, but not piebalds), but she just never gave anyone a shot.
Anyway, last night of late bow season (Dec. 31) I went out to hunt. Colder than a witch's heart, and windy to boot. But I was young, tough and probably more important, hungry; freezer was bare, tag was unpunched, I was ready to kill any doe that walked by. My cousins and I call this "donkey-bonkin' time." So I trudged through the snow, crawled into the stand, and settled in.
Half-hour later, guess who shows up? Yup...the piebald. She was cutting through an old apple orchard out of bow-range when she hit my track. Stuck her nose where I'd been post-holing, and tracked me right to the tree. So there I had her at 7 yards; she's sniffing my track, I'm at full draw, my pin on this white patch on her back that looked like a saddle. All I gotta do is tick the release, zip the arrow through her, and I've filled the tag, the freezer and a dream.
Well....I couldn't do it. I let that old girl walk out of my life and went back to the truck froze like a block. No one ever did kill her, that we know of. I dunno, over the years I wondered if maybe other guys had a chance like me and couldn't do it, either.
I guess that's a long, rambly way of saying my head would probably tell me to take the 170, and my heart would say the monarch. And sitting here and not out there, I have not a clue what my arrow would do!
Long time ago I had a farm I hunted in Wisconsin. There was a piebald (partial albino) doe living there that was something of a local fixture...7 or 8 years old, gorgeous thing, white patches all over her like an Appaloosa horse. Lots of guys, including me, wanted a crack at her. (Albinos are protected in WI, but not piebalds), but she just never gave anyone a shot.
Anyway, last night of late bow season (Dec. 31) I went out to hunt. Colder than a witch's heart, and windy to boot. But I was young, tough and probably more important, hungry; freezer was bare, tag was unpunched, I was ready to kill any doe that walked by. My cousins and I call this "donkey-bonkin' time." So I trudged through the snow, crawled into the stand, and settled in.
Half-hour later, guess who shows up? Yup...the piebald. She was cutting through an old apple orchard out of bow-range when she hit my track. Stuck her nose where I'd been post-holing, and tracked me right to the tree. So there I had her at 7 yards; she's sniffing my track, I'm at full draw, my pin on this white patch on her back that looked like a saddle. All I gotta do is tick the release, zip the arrow through her, and I've filled the tag, the freezer and a dream.
Well....I couldn't do it. I let that old girl walk out of my life and went back to the truck froze like a block. No one ever did kill her, that we know of. I dunno, over the years I wondered if maybe other guys had a chance like me and couldn't do it, either.
I guess that's a long, rambly way of saying my head would probably tell me to take the 170, and my heart would say the monarch. And sitting here and not out there, I have not a clue what my arrow would do!
Ghost
Life Member
That's a neat story Grasshopper!
With the internet, we see an aweful lot of big buck pictures. We see so many big buck pictures that we almost start believing that a 170 inch deer is common in the timber.
Kind of like how all the exposure Iowa has gotten in the past 10 years has "outsiders" wanting to hunt Iowa because there is a Booner behind every tree.
I think people begin to forget how rare mature bucks scoring in the 170+ range really are.
Sure, certain properties will have a higher percentage of older age class bucks on them than others.
I will be going into my 30th year (makes me sound really old) of chasing whitetails this Fall. I can honestly say I have a real respect/admiration for hunters that can consistently put themself in bow range of a 170+ buck.
I know this is just for fun, but you probably wouldn't even see the older deer. He has lived that long already and would have lost his lust for chasing does. He is old, fat, lazy, smart and extremely skilled at survival.
I consider a 4.5 year old buck mature, maybe not fully mature, but mature by my standards.
Without a second thought, the 170 buck is going to be painting the leaves red. /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
With the internet, we see an aweful lot of big buck pictures. We see so many big buck pictures that we almost start believing that a 170 inch deer is common in the timber.
Kind of like how all the exposure Iowa has gotten in the past 10 years has "outsiders" wanting to hunt Iowa because there is a Booner behind every tree.
I think people begin to forget how rare mature bucks scoring in the 170+ range really are.
Sure, certain properties will have a higher percentage of older age class bucks on them than others.
I will be going into my 30th year (makes me sound really old) of chasing whitetails this Fall. I can honestly say I have a real respect/admiration for hunters that can consistently put themself in bow range of a 170+ buck.
I know this is just for fun, but you probably wouldn't even see the older deer. He has lived that long already and would have lost his lust for chasing does. He is old, fat, lazy, smart and extremely skilled at survival.
I consider a 4.5 year old buck mature, maybe not fully mature, but mature by my standards.
Without a second thought, the 170 buck is going to be painting the leaves red. /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
jjohnson
Well-Known Member
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ghost</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Without a second thought, the 170 buck is going to be painting the leaves red. /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
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+1 but my luck I'd miss. /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/sick.gif
Without a second thought, the 170 buck is going to be painting the leaves red. /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
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+1 but my luck I'd miss. /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/sick.gif
Muddy,
In your scenario you say you have sheds and pics of the 9 yr old through the years.
What was his score in his prime? If you have huge sheds for those years in his prime then I would definately shoot the older one if i recognized him.
That 4.5 170" would get a hard pass but like has been said he will be bigger the next year. You also have something to really go after and be very excited about after letting him go till next year.
Just think if you kill him the next year and he is 190" then you would really be on cloud 9.
Just ask Saskguy about passing up Booners only to shoot super 200" booners. Seems to work for him....of course he lives in Gods country in canada where you can kill 200" deer, catch 30 lb pike, kill a giant bear out your back door, and then find about a 100 huge sheds right next to the dead bear. /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
I'm envious Saskguy!
In your scenario you say you have sheds and pics of the 9 yr old through the years.
What was his score in his prime? If you have huge sheds for those years in his prime then I would definately shoot the older one if i recognized him.
That 4.5 170" would get a hard pass but like has been said he will be bigger the next year. You also have something to really go after and be very excited about after letting him go till next year.
Just think if you kill him the next year and he is 190" then you would really be on cloud 9.
Just ask Saskguy about passing up Booners only to shoot super 200" booners. Seems to work for him....of course he lives in Gods country in canada where you can kill 200" deer, catch 30 lb pike, kill a giant bear out your back door, and then find about a 100 huge sheds right next to the dead bear. /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
I'm envious Saskguy!
bowhuntr311
IowaWhitetail Addict
No doubt in my mind the 170 is going to be running hell bent for another county when I sail an arrow past him instead of through him becuase Im so jacked up on adrenline. Meanwhile the old 130 buck will probably book for another county as well.
Dean
Dean