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Hawk32

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Looking at PH drills what are the big differences between g series and m series?
I’m wanting a drill to do basic plots clovers, beans, brassicas but also be able to do switch (RC). Do you need the fluffy seed box for switch? Is the small seed box necessary?

Thanks
 
Looking at PH drills what are the big differences between g series and m series?
I’m wanting a drill to do basic plots clovers, beans, brassicas but also be able to do switch (RC). Do you need the fluffy seed box for switch? Is the small seed box necessary?

Thanks
this was on their FB page a month or so back.....

PH Outdoors

December 11, 2024 ·
We’ve been getting a lot of questions about our M-Series drill and how it differs from the G-Series. The M-Series is meant to be an entry level machine without all of the frills that you wold get with the G-Series, which is our premium machine. Our goal was to see more people able to afford a no till machine and get on board with better soil conservation practices.
Here’s a list of some of the differences. #PHOutdoors
The weight is lower on an M-Series. The M5 is 500# lighter than the G5.
The M-Series will be just one model, the M5, for 2025.
The M-Series has a packer roller instead of individual packer wheels.
The M-Series will not have a variable speed gearbox.
The M-Series will have a gate setting for seed size the same as the G-Series.
The M5 depth setting will be with a packer roller.
The M5 will use a slide opening on the seed elements for seed calibration.
The M5 will have a weight bar and weights the same as the G-Series.
The M5 will have the same drive wheel as the G-Series.
The spacing of the planting coulters is the same as G-Series.
There are only two front stand legs on the M-Series.
The hopper capacity on the M-Series is slightly smaller.
The M-Series will not have bin dividers available.
The M-Series will not have wheel kits available.
The M-Series will be able to use the same row blockers.
The M-Series will not fit with the small seed box or native seed boxes.
The M-Series will not have optional front coulters.
The M-Series will have the calibration tray.
 
Thanks. So the cheaper m series would work for all that stuff as well then?
No gear box would be a deal breaker for me personally. That is the best part of RTP/PH. Calibration made so easy. The ONE thing that beats any drill manufacturer out there included GP.
 
That’s good to know. Thanks. Would like to get a good used one to save bit but from what little I’ve looked they seem really hard to find.
 
this was on their FB page a month or so back.....

PH Outdoors

December 11, 2024 ·
We’ve been getting a lot of questions about our M-Series drill and how it differs from the G-Series. The M-Series is meant to be an entry level machine without all of the frills that you wold get with the G-Series, which is our premium machine. Our goal was to see more people able to afford a no till machine and get on board with better soil conservation practices.
Here’s a list of some of the differences. #PHOutdoors
The weight is lower on an M-Series. The M5 is 500# lighter than the G5.
The M-Series will be just one model, the M5, for 2025.
The M-Series has a packer roller instead of individual packer wheels.
The M-Series will not have a variable speed gearbox.
The M-Series will have a gate setting for seed size the same as the G-Series.
The M5 depth setting will be with a packer roller.
The M5 will use a slide opening on the seed elements for seed calibration.
The M5 will have a weight bar and weights the same as the G-Series.
The M5 will have the same drive wheel as the G-Series.
The spacing of the planting coulters is the same as G-Series.
There are only two front stand legs on the M-Series.
The hopper capacity on the M-Series is slightly smaller.
The M-Series will not have bin dividers available.
The M-Series will not have wheel kits available.
The M-Series will be able to use the same row blockers.
The M-Series will not fit with the small seed box or native seed boxes.
The M-Series will not have optional front coulters.
The M-Series will have the calibration tray.

Seems like this is basically at Great Plains 3P500.

At least you can get a small seed box on the GP, as well as individual closer wheels for better depth control...
 
Torn between M and G if I ever do pull the trigger. Not sure if I would ever use the extra boxes that are available for G series. Lighter wt would be nice the G series is towards top end of my tractors lift capacity and M series is a lot of more reasonable in price.
 
Rob do you use the front coulters at all. I see they are not available on the M series. You mentioned the gear box being a deal breaker for you. Can you elaborate on that for me please. Thanks
 
Rob do you use the front coulters at all. I see they are not available on the M series. You mentioned the gear box being a deal breaker for you. Can you elaborate on that for me please. Thanks
No coulters. Alot of people that got coulters end up taking them off.

Gear box controls the metering cup rotation speed. So, you set gate opening based on seed size then adjust gear box to control how fast seed comes out. I can adjust seed rates by literally fraction of ounces. It's done with gearbox.

watch this video.
 
Thanks Rob. I'm horrible at making these types of decisions. lol I think for what I would be using it for, smaller areas of clovers, turnips, beans, and small areas of RC the M series would be sufficient. Just don't want to regret going cheaper route and some day wishing I had the G. I've had plenty of experience being a cheap a$$.
 
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Thanks Rob. I'm horrible at making these types of decisions. lol I think for what I would be using it for, smaller areas of clovers, turnips, beans, and small areas of RC the M series would be sufficient. Just don't want to regret going cheaper route and some day wishing I had the G. I've had plenty of experience being a cheap a$$.
I haven't seen an M series in person but I'm assuming they are metering seed similar to a drop seeder. Works fine for small seed. Wondering how that would work for larger stuff like corn or beans.
 
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