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Hardcorehunter

Hardcorehunter

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Say you are going on an Archery Wilderness Bowhunt with only your wife, 14 year old son, and yourself in the mountains and will be backpacking 6-10 miles back in. Would you pack a handgun on either or both of the adults or go without the handguns and risk running into some freaks, meth heads, or other creeps that may be armed with firearms. What if the law states that you can't carry a gun while bowhunting? Do you carry it anyway? I have been in this situation and carried anyway. I feel that it is my right to protect my family and it is a choice if caught I will deal with. I would rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Let me know your views.
 
I wouldn't post the same question on 3 different websites. ha, ha j/k
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I'd take it along with.
 
You could go on that trip a thousand times and never have a problem but what if? Of course this is coming from someone who was packing in Yellowstone...big time no-no.
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You could run into someone cooking meth anywhere. Especially in rural areas like southern Iowa where your from Nanny. Being in the ag business you should be aware of all the anhydrous that gets stolen in these rural areas. You never know when you drive down a dirt road or pull into an abandon farm site that you have permission to hunt if your gonna run into one or more of these low lifes cooking a batch. I would always error on the side of caution when it comes to protecting myself and my family. What really makes me mad is that concealed weapons permits are not like drivers licenses where other states have to honor them. Why can't there be a federal carry permit (other then for law enforcement) where a guy would be legal to carry concealed anywhere in the US?
 
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I would take it anyways! Especially if u have a concealed weapons permit! Do anything to protect your family!!

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Remember though that your concealed weapons permit is only good in your state and is not valid across state lines.
 
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You could run into someone cooking meth anywhere. Especially in rural areas like southern Iowa where your from Nanny. Being in the ag business you should be aware of all the anhydrous that gets stolen in these rural areas. You never know when you drive down a dirt road or pull into an abandon farm site that you have permission to hunt if your gonna run into one or more of these low lifes cooking a batch. I would always error on the side of caution when it comes to protecting myself and my family. What really makes me mad is that concealed weapons permits are not like drivers licenses where other states have to honor them. Why can't there be a federal carry permit (other then for law enforcement) where a guy would be legal to carry concealed anywhere in the US?

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Honestly, we really don't have much theft of NH3, emphisis MUCH. So far, the ones who have stole it, we or law enforcement has caught. As to where I hunt, alot of friends close by and probably not the best spot for a meth head to cook a batch, but I know that there are spots where the crazys hang out. So I don't know, me personally, I don't and am not going to carry a side arm, but I think its pretty much ones decision if they feel they need it or not. If you need it, carry it, if you have a spot like I do, or not to worried about it, don't. If you are in a spot that may be a threat to you are your family, probably wouldn't be a bad idea to carry one, meth heads will probably have a side arm or a firearm of some kind with them.
 
So carry when you're packing in and keep it in camp when you're hunting (assuming someone will be in camp with it)

Doubt you'd find many meth heads once you're over a mile from a road.
 
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I wouldn't post the same question on 3 different websites. ha, ha j/k
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I'd take it along with.

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Different sites for different views and opinions. Opinions are running 99% in favor of packing a gun regardless of the law. Very interesting but not surprising.
 
I'll be one of the 1% that wouldn't. Not because of the law, and not because of meth heads. Because of the weight. Not that a side arm by itself weighs much, but if you packing out 90 or 100 pounds of meat for a few miles you really don't want to carry anything else. I've done it before and it ain't no fun. We had sidearms with both trips to AK and they stayed in camp always.
 
If you are hunting, I would suspect you would know about their presence before they would know about yours therefore avoiding the nut-cases is a possibility

I would not carry a gun. If the bear issue come up, pepper spray has been proven to be more accurate than the maybe one shot you would get off out of a pistol.
 
Dont carry, more then likely they are unarmed and if you get into a issue with them, now they have opportunity for a weapon and there for you are up for murder.

Like someone said, for the labs that I have found most are only a few hundred yrds off the road or river bank and not that far from a boat landing. They like easy access.


As for protecting the family issue, do what you have to do but more harm can be done when someone with a gun is armed and also frightened, just watch your back is all Im saying. When crap hits the fan people just start shooting at anything that moves and heaven for bid you step in the line of fire.
 
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I would take it anyways! Especially if u have a concealed weapons permit! Do anything to protect your family!!

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Remember though that your concealed weapons permit is only good in your state and is not valid across state lines.

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Kk... thanx.. i was debating on whether or not to put that.. but i wasnt sure if it was valid in every state...
 
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Remember though that your concealed weapons permit is only good in your state and is not valid across state lines.

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Actually my KS concealed carry is valid in 19 other states. Unfortunately, Iowa isn't on the list
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I cleaned up Meth Labs for 1 1/2yrs. Over 200 labs cleaned and none that far off. In this case I do have experience and not just opinion. Yes meth heads are dumb, in more ways than one, but that's not how they work. Your typical "roadside" isn't a lab, it's a dumpsite. Others, as already stated, are only a few hundred yards off the road that are easy access, easy to keep watch and quick getaway. Most of the "cooks" are done in houses and abandoned buildings. Never did we clean up an "active" lab in the timber, those were always a one time "cooking" spot. If they are in search of a spot, they will avoid someones camping area. Yes there are exceptions to the rules. I cleaned up one lab within 200 yds of the DEA office in CR.

I know this thread has sorta changed direction. My opinion carry a side arm "legally", have your spouse trained on proper and safe use, leave it with them when you actually go to the stand.
 
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For those that don't know of this site, here is where you can find out which states honor your permit.

http://www.packing.org/



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Just a word of warning... The info I read on this site pertaining to Kansas was very out of date and most of it was just flat wrong. I will assume that Kansas is not the only state on there that has incorrect info so please double check with your state's attorney general's office for current regulations and reciprocity.
 
http://www.nraila.org/recmap/usrecmap.aspx
I went to the NRA site here and they are posting the same states that recognize my IA carry permit as packing.orgs does. When I go to packing .org and the NRA site for KS they differ greatly. Packing.org says KS can carry only in AZ, FL, MI, and VT while the NRA site says AL, AZ, FL, ID, IN, KY, MI, MO, OK, SD, TN, UT, VT for a total of 13 not 19.
This whole situation with these carry laws is a mess IMO. We have 99 counties in IA with the sheriff in each county having the power to determine who gets to carry. I am fortunate to live in a county where I have been able to carry for years but I have buddies in Story county and that sheriff doesn't allow them to carry. We need one state law that overrides all of this individual county decision on the matter. Furthermore, it should be all of us concealed permit holders' rights to carry anywhere in the United States without having to look up info on these sites and wondering whether the info is correct or not.
 
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