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Wow. To each their own. Sounds like a holier than thou attitude to me. People are supposed to know what they don’t know. Lol. I worked for the Dept of Justice for 25 years. Recite to me our LE protocols, procedures and the details of our trade craft. After all I did work for the general public.

Someone has to be responsible. You don't have to know all the backroom deals to be able to keep your representatives accountable, you have to know the difference between what they say while campaigning, and what they do while in Congress (or the WH). That much is easily knowable. Voters who don't feel like they can have a handle on whether or not their representing politicians are lying to them or not (at a minimum), well, maybe they shouldn't be voting. It's nothing like knowing all the protocols of the DOJ.
 
The most ambitious, brightest & most moral of character are the EXACT types that don’t want to run because of the system we evolved into.

This is what stands out to me the most. Round here, every time someone talks about politics its a laughing stock. Just laughs and jokes. We KNOW they corrupt, we KNOW they are robbing us. But we also know we can't do shit about it. Its a stacked deck. Our forefathers are turning over in their graves watching this mess. Also these people (ambitious, bright, moral, etc.) see what Trump goes through and has gone through, no one wants to do that. They know its a battle they won't win, especially if they can't lend money to God.

It's not as simple as saying "well there already is term limits, just don't vote for them." Sorry but it's muddier than that. I agree that USED to be how it was. (a long ass time ago)

Good people also don’t want to run because they know they are going into a system of crooks, slime balls, incompetent sell outs & folks that can’t survive in the private sector.

Spot on again. Who wants to go and get involved in that mess. When you wrestle with pigs, you're bound to end up covered in shit.


Here's my question though. Will it ever turn back? Will it ever get back to John the local tire shop owner goes in to "serve his duty" and runs for congress. Or Billy the rancher? It frightens me but i just don't see it happening in my lifetime (I'm 31).
 
I used to work some in D.C. in the political sphere so I have some experience.

Several things would make a major difference.

- No golden parachute into the lobbying world until at least 10 years after you retire from Congress. This would go a long ways towards de-incentivising those people who want to be in Congress for something other than serving their constituents.
- *Much* more strict ethics rules in Congress.
- Congress not being a *year-round/full-time* job. This is a problem that keeps our Congressmen and Senators *away* from their home districts/states for too much of the year (they're basically D.C. residents) and they lose touch with real life and the people who sent them there to begin with. They contract "inside the beltway" syndrome, from which it is hard to detach. They need to have jobs back home in-state or in-district that is their primary source of income, like with a lot of state legislators.

The biggest thing that would make a difference is voters being less partisan, and more educated, and not just from their left-partisan or right-partisan "news" sources that confirm their priors rather than giving them information about what is actually going on in the nation and the world. Both sides have a bias/slant, but intelligent people should be able to sift out the hard news from the slant. If more voters would take in their daily news and information from a broader, wide spectrum basket of sources, they would be much better informed and much less easy for the politicians to fool when it's re-election season.
 
The most important issue to many of my Republican friends and family is election integrity! A secure border, education, good economy & a strong military are all up there as well !

If we have another round of 3 am 100,000 vote increases for Harris, I think we will have major problems in the US. Early voting is about dead even, so they can’t make the excuses this time! If Trump is way ahead and Harris catches him 4 days after the election (like Biden did) nobody will believe it !! Fraud has to end …

Trump is favored in most polls now and typically outperforms polls by 4-5. Muslims are not voting for Harris, Trump has surged with Jews, Koreans, African Americans, Hispanics… so where will her votes come from ?

Election day will be an interesting watch . I’ll predict Trump blows her out, but I’m still concerned about 3 am vote dumps. Last time I went to bed at 1 am thinking Trump won as he was ahead by 800,000 votes in Pennsylvania with 89% of the votes counted . He was ahead in Georgia, Michigan & Wisconsin

I Woke up and somehow Biden was close, a week later he took the lead ???
 
Informing oneself about the different types of votes and how votes get counted in different states (very different rules in different states) will go a long ways towards helping voters understand that not everything you don't like is a conspiracy - from *either* side. You have to want to be informed though. It's much easier to follow the partisan herd and just yell "election fraud!" when things don't go the way you think they should, but the prudent thing is to be well informed and then no one on either side of the political aisle can easily pull the wool over your eyes. Ill-informed voters are easy marks for dishonest politicians and career political hacks (I guess that's redundant huh?), but they won't be laughing under their breath at voters who take the time to be educated with facts.
 
There shouldn’t be different ways to vote. Absentee for the military and legit business travel and one day in person voting. That’s it. Also the voting rules in each state need to be uniform for federal elections. Simple. This isn’t rocket science. I will bet my life Trump won in 2020. The fraud after 2 AM was ridiculous.

Btw what did you do in DC and for how long.
 
Informing oneself about the different types of votes and how votes get counted in different states (very different rules in different states) will go a long ways towards helping voters understand that not everything you don't like is a conspiracy - from *either* side. You have to want to be informed though. It's much easier to follow the partisan herd and just yell "election fraud!" when things don't go the way you think they should, but the prudent thing is to be well informed and then no one on either side of the political aisle can easily pull the wool over your eyes. Ill-informed voters are easy marks for dishonest politicians and career political hacks (I guess that's redundant huh?), but they won't be laughing under their breath at voters who take the time to be educated with facts.
A recent poll has 78% of Republican voters thinking the election was stolen. So you liberals need to do a much better job of hiding your fraud !

100,000 vote increases do not happen for one candidate, especially at 3 am in the morning…

Not buying it, one bit!
 
There shouldn’t be different ways to vote. Absentee for the military and legit business travel and one day in person voting. That’s it. Also the voting rules in each state need to be uniform for federal elections. Simple. This isn’t rocket science.

Life in the real world says that we abide by the laws as they currently are written, not as we would wish them to be written. That's reality. If you want to change that, work within the system to change it. States have state elections going on the same day, and on the same ballot, as federal elections, so yes they should be able to set their own rules. That's called Federalism. Trying to make the counting of votes for the federal elections be uniform while at the same time states having different/varying rules for counting of votes for state elections would be a recipe for a chaotic nightmare.

Btw what did you do in DC and for how long.

I worked for a special interest public policy firm on family issues for a couple years.
 
The states use the “different “ voting rules to manipulate the results. That’s reality. How about we vote for state politicians on one day and vote for Feds on another using uniform rules. Not hard to implement. You’re making excuses for the fraud initiated through the rules. It may have been well intended when developed but anyone can see it’s not viable and to not admit otherwise is ignorant to use your words.

Who do you support in this election? What type of family issues did you work on. Just curious.
 
A recent poll has 78% of Republican voters thinking the election was stolen. So you liberals need to do a much better job of hiding your fraud ! I can assure you I'm the opposite of a liberal. That you think my suggestion that it is prudent to gather *facts*, and *be informed* as a voter on how voting takes places in different states is an indicator that I'm a liberal is very sad, but I guess that's where we are today.:(

100,000 vote increases do not happen for one candidate, especially at 3 am in the morning....

Not buying it, one bit!
 
The states use the “different “ voting rules to manipulate the results. That’s reality. Everyone is entitled to have their own opinions, you included.

How about we vote for state on one day and vote for Feds on another using uniform rules. Not hard to implement. We should be trying to make it easier for as many citizens to vote as want to be engaged in the process, not harder. Your suggestion would make it harder.

You’re making excuses for the fraud initiated through the rules. I'm not making excuses for anything, I'm saying if voters were informed about how things actually work in the various states they would be less likely to see fraud in any result they don't like. I had no idea who was going to end up the winner in the 2020 Presidential election, but nothing about the way the votes came in and were counted in the different states surprised me, because I was pretty well informed about the vote tabulation guideline differences in some of the important states. Like for instance that in Pennsylvania current state law doesn't allow county election officials to begin opening early vote by mail ballots until election day, and doesn't allow them to begin to record and publish mail ballot results until after the polls close. That's potentially millions of ballots, on the same day election officials are also running 9,000+ polling places across the state. That law was passed by the Republican state legislature. I believe some people think election workers are miracle workers. Haste makes for mistakes.

It may have been well intended when developed but anyone can see it’s not viable and not admit otherwise is ignorant to use your words. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but not their own facts.

Who do you support in this election? I find both candidates to be undesirable.

What type of family issues did you work on. Just curious. Homeschooling and parental rights issues.
 
So you’re not voting ?? All your political rhetoric is for what? lol. Well, the “facts” are you have Trump and Harris as your choices. Trump was President for 4 years and so was Harris/Biden. Trump out performed the current admin on every or any issue you choose. Simple choice for most.

If you’re blind to the fraud in the swing states last go around you’re the person ignoring facts.
 
So you’re not voting ?? All your political rhetoric is for what? lol. Well, the “facts” are you have Trump and Harris as your choices. Trump was President for 4 years and so was Harris/Biden. Trump out performed the current admin on every or any issue you choose. Simple choice for most. I wasn't aware of any of that, thanks for letting me know. I thought it was McCain vs. Obama this election. :cool: I'm sure you do believe it's a simple choice for most, but of course that is your opinion, not a fact. If it was a fact, there wouldn't be so much fretting about the election from voters on both sides of the political aisle.

If you’re blind to the fraud in the swing states last go around you’re the person ignoring facts. You will believe what you want to believe and I'm not going to change your opinion or try. But there is a difference between opinion and fact. Even strongly held opinions do not = fact. Opinion="a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge"; Fact="a thing that is known or proved to be true."
 
If we really wanted fair voting , we’d have all states be required to report results by midnight on Election evening like we used to have.

Each state send results in at the same time. Done deal ! No trickle in votes for a week .
 
If more voters would take in their daily news and information from a broader, wide spectrum basket of sources, they would be much better informed and much less easy for the politicians to fool when it's re-election season.
And identify the foreign influence campaigns instead of repeating it word for word like its the truth.

In this thread somewhere is a post that indicates a very active user “who doesn’t know what the truth is anymore”. Mission accomplished by foreign interests, hold your glass of vodka high and toast. It’s working. This is 100% what Russia does to their own people. It’s what they do to European countries right before the little green men show up.

I also saw a Benny Johnson repost here or at the habitat talk forum. Hey folks, no bs, he was getting paid by Russian intelligence officers. Bags of money fell out of the sky for him and his ilk to run their talking points. Sure he can claim he didn’t know but when someone starts dumping money on you to say what they want you to say, do you do it?

Well if you are an un American little prick willing to take money to help a foreign adversary sow the seeds of distrust against our institutions I guess you do. All while claiming to be a “patriot”.
 
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If we really wanted fair voting , we’d have all states be required to report results by midnight on Election evening like we used to have.

Each state send results in at the same time. Done deal ! No trickle in votes for a week .
If everyone who wants to legally vote has the opportunity to legally vote then it's not a question of "fairness". You may not like the way it's done currently with some different guidelines by state, but if voters all have the same opportunities to vote, that is in fact "fair". Or does "fair" mean something different to you?
 
Who doesn’t have a chance to legally vote with 4 years to plan the date? I don’t want to hear the disenfranchised BS. The groups who are always disenfranchised have ID to collect government Bennie’s and find a way to liquor and grocery store the same day each month. I’m sure everyone can vote. Another lib tard talking point.
 
Who doesn’t have a chance to legally vote with 4 years to plan the date?

Maybe you have a simple career and life and daily schedule that makes it so you are guaranteed to be available to vote in person on election day every 4 years, but not everyone plans their life around election day (thank goodness), and even if they did, sometimes life intervenes and unexpected things happen to change plans. Should the 1st week of November be a week every year that no one takes vacations? Or takes an out of state hunting trip? Or perhaps can't get off work that day? Or a retired snowbird who is already in Florida or Arizona or Texas for the Winter? Or has to attend a funeral unexpectedly in a different state? Should people literally just have to put their lives on hold for that week in order to vote in person on election day? If that's your opinion, then you're entitled to that opinion, but others may feel differently, and as I said previously, we abide by the laws as currently written, not as we wish them to be written.
 
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