I voted for Biden, and will vote for him again. Yes, I wish he was younger (I did not caucus for him because I thought he was too old). No, I do not support every one of his policies, although generally I am satisfied. I generally prefer liberal policies over conservative ones.
Conversations about candidates have their uses, but personally I think it's the platforms and issues that are the most important. While I'd be happy to represent "The Braindead Liberals" and have a respectful conversation with any of you about any topic, I would like to pose a question, or group of questions, to this clearly very Conservative group:
What is the Republican platform? What are the key 5 issues that Republicans stand for? What are the most important legislative priorities, and why?
More importantly, what specifically do you want to see done? If "Fix Immigration" is the issue, ok, how exactly? Spend billions trying to construct and police an impermeable border? Deport every illegal immigrant? Increase funding and staff the legal immigration process to reduce backlog? Etc.
I have my doubts that one more internet message board argument is going to benefit humanity in any way, but neither do I think an echo chamber where only one side is represented benefits anyone. Respectful conversation and exchange of ideas is what our country needs more of. Let's have it.
The Uni-party Republicrat Establishment platform is different from the Conservative platform. With that said… Conservative platform:What is the Republican platform? What are the key 5 issues that Republicans stand for? What are the most important legislative priorities, and why?
More importantly, what specifically do you want to see done? If "Fix Immigration" is the issue, ok, how exactly? Spend billions trying to construct and police an impermeable border? Deport every illegal immigrant? Increase funding and staff the legal immigration process to reduce backlog? Etc. it.
You quoted that you like some things that Joe has done! Enlighten us on what you like that he’s done….. nothing is coming to mind for me.Yes. I don't think the Biden administration has been perfect, far from it. But I like a lot of things that have been done.
Of things you mentioned specifically. NO, I don't like the high prices. Grocery shopping has driven me nuts, and I am a person who is fortunate enough financially that it hasn't been a real burden. BUT, what should be done to fix it? What are the solutions? Certainly not government price controls, right? Fed needs to reduce the supply of money to kill demand? Is that what Republicans are calling for? (I don't know). How does that reduction in demand effect business/jobs? It's all a balance, right? Was COVID stimulus check from Biden a mistake? I got one from Trump too, even got a separate extra letter from him making sure I knew he was the person to thank for it.
I love parental involvement in education. I'm baffled by 1 student's parents saying "I don't want my kid to read this book," therefore no one else's kid can read that book. But more than that, I wish instead of these culture wars, Iowa was working harder to fix our roads and bridges.
Not sure some of your other facts are accurate, but we don't need to dig unless you want to. And yes, I agree with a lot of gun restrictions! I own several guns! I don't think very many democrats want ALL guns taken away. I think if people sat down and actually talked about this sort of thing, they'd be surprised on what they could agree on. That would be my hope anyway.
You're acting like a crazy liberal: you disagree with someone, so you immediately get hostile, scream, and berate.Acorn, consider us enemies. Biden sucks, and you're one of the ones who voted for him????And will again??? Get the ef outta here.
You just berated me. And then you summed up why Biden sucks. THIS IS SCREAMING, when you type, I didn't do that. Scroll on.You're acting like a crazy liberal: you disagree with someone, so you immediately get hostile, scream, and berate.
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You wasted your breath and typing. You aren't going to change the mind of a Dem. I'm done with political correctness. Biden and his supporters ARE my enemy. It's the truth, that's all. I said get the f outta here, because acorn posted on a thread titled Trump or Desantis. Thread had nothing to do with Biden, but acorn had to go there.I provided civil reasons why I don't like Biden as an on-going discussion of both sides. I didn't call him my enemy and tell him to get the F out of here.
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If it pisses u off big league. Those are the times I tune out. Honestly - that’s why I only check the news on rare occasion….. because it does make me so mad. & I don’t want to be in that world in my own head. So I turn it off.If it makes you all happy, I'm done posting in this thread.
My thoughts on politics align with yours almost exactly. I do think one thing in today's world that really decides elections is that more and more people today want free stuff. They vote accordingly and could care less what harm is being done to the USA under the Democrats. As long as they actually receive free things from Democrats or are promised free stuff that is who they will vote for. I figure this group makes up about 40-50% of our population now. Look at what Biden is giving out recently......College loan forgiveness, rent forgiveness, no evictions, the child tax credit increases, free healthcare, legal fees and welfare for illegals, I believe some Dem states still give out covid money, and the list goes on.. It's an uphill battle going forward to take the country back and I'm hoping it can be done.If it pisses u off big league. Those are the times I tune out. Honestly - that’s why I only check the news on rare occasion….. because it does make me so mad. & I don’t want to be in that world in my own head. So I turn it off.
Do I think it’s fine to debate this stuff? ABSOLUTELY! Especially when it’s with decent people. Which is what we have here. & I’ll say it…. I’ll bet you a dollar Acorn is a good dude with good intentions. I don’t think the same of Biden & the corrupt establishment. I’m angry what they did to our country BUT i also want civil debate. & it’s a RARE thing to have this group of good decent people (say VS Facebook or some Media site) & where we can hear from a Biden supporter & at least respect the discussion. Or his right to speak. I don’t agree with it but I want opposing views able to be expressed. Liberals are afraid to give Trump or many conservatives a voice. It’s WEAK!!! It’s a weak position!!!! This site ain’t weak. We aren’t weak. We should let other views be heard. Think I made my point. .
Biden is not fit for president. Or even fit for being outside a nursing home. The country is being ruined before our eyes. We got a year to get this right…. I’ll be honest - I believe Trump or Desantis could trounce President Vegetable. If we don’t resolve ballot harvesting, mail in voting, signature verification, on & on…. Won’t matter. That’s the battle. Way before who should win the primary or who the best option is in Nov 2024
Oh, on #4 you must also be talking about some farmers. Except in the off season they hang down in their 2nd home down south or maybe even a 3rd home up north. Plenty of handouts there as well as corporate subsidies, tax breaks, allowing avoidance of taxes by off-shoring income, etc.I have to admit, I try to give the President respect regardless of who is in office. This is the first time in my life I can say that I have lost all respect for my president. Career politician that has an IQ of a crash test dummy, no sense of what the American people need, brought us to the brink of WWIII, and has the entire nation under extreme economic stress. Add to that the border policy, the lack of ownership of issues and the corrupt cover ups that certainly changed the election and I just can't find an ounce of me that respects Biden.
As far as what the country needs from my side:
1. Fiscal conservatism - this has been something that our government (both sides) have not been able to do in a long time. We have to stop the BS spend, spend, spend attitude of this country that the last 4 decades have brought, we will not survive much longer.
2. protect our country and our people first. This includes, but certainly not limited to, the border. Our country is still the greatest in the world and people want to immigrate here, I understand this. But you have to be vetted and come in the right way. I will take the wall to start, it will provide some deterrence but certainly is not an end all. Reinstate and make permanent the "stay in Mexico" policy of Trump. I would also increase the number of agents and or issue military surveillance of the border with the ability to use force to keep people from crossing illegally, it will never be impermeable but it cannot continue to be open gates. Billions spent monitoring and controlling the border would still be 10x lower than the financial burden of open borders.
3. Term limits for every elected official. You are there for the people not to swell your personal pocket. With that, no more insider trading by our officials and harsh punishments for those caught.
Along with term limits, cognitive competency testing must also take place. We cannot afford to have folks in major cognitive decline holding positions of power.
4. Limiting government handouts. No more sitting at home and getting paid. Yearly and lifetime limits on all government assistant programs. You should contribute to this country in a positive way if the government is going to pay you. I know plenty of road side ditches that need cleaned
5. Energy independence. 3 years ago we were making money off American produced energy, sad state of affairs today. We can balance where and how we drill, etc. with conservation efforts, both sides know this.
6. Infrastructure investments - more half ass fixes. This is the only 1st world country I have ever been to where you can lose teeth driving down the interstate. The technology is there already, use it.
7. Eliminate the NEA. Teachers unions, teachers pay, benefits, education structures, etc. should be 100% controlled by the states.
8. Work on incentives for America to become independent of China and others. I don't have the answers here but we cannot rely on foreign countries to provide us with key products or ingredients to survival (i.e medications). We are still feeling the affects of the pandemic on supply chains, this is not going away soon so the investment in America has to start now.
9. More funding for law enforcement. 346 officers shot in line of duty in 2022, that is 346 too many. Stricter punishments that must be served to full term. Law, order, and discipline go a long way. Additionally, the use of federal officers in highest crime areas reinstated.
10. Arrest Fauci
11. Stronger foreign policy. We are the joke of the free world. Afghanistan withdraw was one of the largest foreign policy blunders in the history of the US. We have lost respect internationally and our enemies are taking advantage.
I would like to know what you think Trump gets done? I agree about there being a lower probability of the Ukraine war but obviously no way to prove that theory. And crime spikes? Umm if I remember correctly Trump was president when the BLM riots were taking over the nation. He had TONS of chances to call in the National Guard yet never did. And really he didn't win...He handled Covid poorly. He was the one that appointed Faucci. Look I voted for the man twice but other than low gas prices, a good economy and a goof foreign policy with China he really didnt do shit....Trump gets things done. This isn’t a popularity contest. It’s about leading, looking out for our nation and at times saving lives. If Trump were President there would be no Ukraine war. The Dems who facilitated the fraud literally have blood on their hands. The crime spikes in the cities would not be happening etc. The examples are endless. I don’t care who Trump rubs the wrong way the man wins. Period. This isn’t a game.
Listen to podcast when Simon Conway interviewed Trump a few days ago about communist Faucci. It’s on Iheart radio good insight about that dogI would like to know what you think Trump gets done? I agree about there being a lower probability of the Ukraine war but obviously no way to prove that theory. And crime spikes? Umm if I remember correctly Trump was president when the BLM riots were taking over the nation. He had TONS of chances to call in the National Guard yet never did. And really he didn't win...He handled Covid poorly. He was the one that appointed Faucci. Look I voted for the man twice but other than low gas prices, a good economy and a goof foreign policy with China he really didnt do shit....
I mean he did aide in dividing the country....not blaming him for it as I believe it was actually Obama started it but Trump certainly didnt help matters.
This is the correct question to ask.I think some need to ask a different question. Who has the best shot to win in a general election. That may be a different answer than who you might think is the absolute best candidate.
I agree the farm subsidies & “hand outs” need to go for farmers. Left or right - maybe we all agree on this?!?! Same with corporate subsidies & ESPECIALLY the CORRUPTION that gives companies like Amazon or google a 0% tax rate while we are sitting here as working men paying 25-45% or more (dependent on state rate & tax bracket).Oh, on #4 you must also be talking about some farmers. Except in the off season they hang down in their 2nd home down south or maybe even a 3rd home up north. Plenty of handouts there as well as corporate subsidies, tax breaks, allowing avoidance of taxes by off-shoring income, etc.