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cages & deer damage

How long do you usually cage poplars, willows and the like to protect from deer? I am thinking that 2 years of good protection would be good.
What experiences do you have?
Thanks!
 
May 13, 2014

Jess & crew planted hundreds of trees this spring including fruit trees from Adams County Nursery, Wildlife Growers and oak and chestnut trees from Forrest Keeling



We try to plant tree orchards that include fruit, chestnut and hybrid oak trees



We also try to keep trees in or around food plots to further increase the adaptation factor. We want whitetails to adapt to coming to one central feeding area 365 days a year, a constant supply of lush forage sweetened with fruit and nut trees will insure they won’t be at the neighbors when hunting season starts.



This is our own farm and Jess planted a combination of Swamp White oaks and Chestnut oaks



These trees are from Forrest Keeling, well started trees in the $13-16 range



We use Miracle vented tubes and 1/2 conduit for stakes



10' stick of conduit is $1.75 and cut in 1/2 = a very inexpensive, yet strong stake



This is the cheapest source I know of

TIMBER MANAGEMENT, LLC
MIKE HAMILTON, OWNER
385 NORTHHAVEN DRIVE
ROBINS,IA 52328
email: timbermgmt@yahoo.com
phone (319)573-0615
SUPPLIER OF TREE AND SHRUB SEED AND VENTILATED TREE SHELTERS AND STAKES.
5' shelters, 1-49 = $4.00
5' shelters, 50-99=$3.25
5' shelters, 100+ =$2.75



The IDNR recommends Forrest Keeling and Miracle tubes for high survival rates and I agree, far better to plant 10 of these then 100 unprotected seedlings ;)
 
A buddy of mine and his wife were thinking of me a few weeks back when he got an email forwarded to them about extra oak saplings available for free from an organization in the quad cities area. They were looking for a good home for several thousand trees, and my buddy picked up about 300 for me. There were swamp white, white, burr, and red oak bare root saplings. We planted them over the last two weekends and just last Saturday got them rest of them in the ground and tubed.

I ordered tubes from Mike at Timber Management. They arrived at my door Wednesday after I ordered them Monday. Very prompt service! I got some electric fence posts from Bomgaars for about a buck apiece. They're the 48" tall with 3/8 diameter rod. They work out well. A little more expensive than conduit, but effective. I'm hoping they take off after the work we put in to get them in the ground. This rain assures me though that they'll survive.



I tried to plant some in the hinged areas where there was more sunlght available.

And others were just in open areas that needed something.


Also got ten more fruit trees in the ground from Adams county nursery. 6 apple and 4 pears. This pic was taken towards the end of April, and they have since leafed out. All 10 of the ACN apple trees I planted last year look great too.



I was compelled to share after seeing so many of you post your experiences over the years in this thread. It's such a great resource for me and many others. Thanks everybody for sharing information and also inspiring me to expend so much energy on habitat improvement.
 
This is a great site. I am learning valuable information for my property.
About 2 weeks ago I planted crabapples, hazelnuts, plums, ninebark, arrowwood, elderberry, poplars and willows.
This is my first time planting so will see how it goes.
 
I have a problem with blackbirds perching on the leaders of my spruce trees
and breaking them. Any one have any solutions? Scarecrows, owls? Thanks!
 
Conifers

In our area red cedars are the only conifers that can survive with out fencing but Norway spruce also make great screens and bedding areas. Last years drought caused higher then normal mortality in new tree plantings, so we hand planted cedars to fill in



We ordered from North Central Reforestation



With weed control the tiny seedlings grow 8-12" a year



Normal spacing is 4-8' apart and rows 8' apart but for a screen we often plant thicker and allow them to self thin, do not do this for bedding areas where trees need to be much farther apart



We use Egyptian Wheat as an interim screen and note the weed control





These are 3 year old cedars that didn't get sprayed last year but trees will respond to weed control for 10 year or more



Conifers make the ultimate screen along roads and surrounding plots to keep whitetails feeling safe and more likely to move during daylight hours. Use EW and miscanthus for temporary screens while trees are growing and eventually you'll have a beautiful conifer screen :way:
 
Lots of acorns this year. The ones 4' or shorter have piles, while the large one only has a few. The large one is 2.5x taller than all the rest. Maybe a cross between a regular chinkapin?


 
? I spring planted some DCO and chestnut nuts, they both had 4-6 inches of root growth, and prob 2-6 inches of top growth when i planted, they are tubed, i planted may 1st, im going back home early july to do some stuff, is there any fertilizer that i can give them to give them a boost? or is it too early? also I have some 2 yeard old dunstans, can I give them anything? and one more, i also have a few 1 year old DCO, i will be home for 4 days and plan on watering all 4 days, july in illinois gets a little hot and dry, any help would be appreciated
 
also I know most people dont tube their dco, but i did, i plan on next spring putting up some fence around them, and Im going to leave some in the tubes to compare, when should I take them out of the tubes though, at what age do DCO's start to grow out more than up
 
I would not fertilize in July. That's too late IMO to do that...wait till early spring to fertilize.

I took the tubes off my dco's on year 2-3 and put up fencing instead. 3' tall tubes work great for winter time varmint control (also bare ground) and can be left on for several years after that.
 
whats the best spray to kill weeds around my trees? will regular round up work? the trees are tubed, and there are several different types of round up. i also see that round up has some that say they kill for 365 days, and they kill down to the root and also kill off any new vegetation, would that hurt the new trees
 
whats the best spray to kill weeds around my trees? will regular round up work? the trees are tubed, and there are several different types of round up. i also see that round up has some that say they kill for 365 days, and they kill down to the root and also kill off any new vegetation, would that hurt the new trees

i suspect that version might kill or injure trees but glyphosate is safe providing trees are tubed.

Here's what we use for season long control


Oaks and cedars - per 5 gal water in ATV sprayer

2 qts simazine
2 qts prowl
1-2 ounce sfm-75 (oust)

If grasses and small weeds are present add

16 ounces clethodim (or gly if trees tubed )
1 qt crop oil

If applying to shrubs and fruit trees omit Oust
 
can u recommend a product i can get at a farm king or menards for spraying around tubed trees, i only have a limited amount of time when i get home to do 100 things that i want,
 
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