Future of CRP

[JBAGS]

Great discussion! Main point is that government doesn't subsidize other businesses when a person is terrible at investments. (Please don't chat about the govt bailout loans scams during covid)

My thought and Skip kind of brought it up is people that bring in 80 percent+ of income from putting crop in the ground may be eligible for CRP. Highly floodable land, river banks, etc...Something that actually benefits the environment.

Problem I have is investors buying up farm ground and putting 200 acres in CRP at 300 an acre. Or as in a couple people around me, the CRP actually makes their yearly payments! Hell of an investment if you never have to pay for it.

Yes they put the front end money down but so do you in your home. Does government give you money every month for just owning a home?

And if that CRP becomes public land removes people from the land welfare program and makes them pay for their "investment" then I'm all for it.

Some will still buy the ground because they are investors and not hunters. Win win for investors and hunters at that point.

Thanks all for being cordial in the discussion!

CRP could use some tweaks to the program, no doubt. $300/acre as you reference is a rare case. I would guess most are much lower than that and average around $150/acre
There were a few years where the pendulum swung out a little too far and they overshot the mark on what it should pay based on crop rental averages per county. Mine, for example pays $141/acre.

I think CRP should be as similar to what you mention, floodable areas, buffe programs, etc but also HEL ground that really has no business being farmed or high CSR ground. It would eliminate big fields of CRP that should be row crop to begin with.

 

[Hardwood11]

Great discussion! Main point is that government doesn't subsidize other businesses when a person is terrible at investments. (Please don't chat about the govt bailout loans scams during covid)

My thought and Skip kind of brought it up is people that bring in 80 percent+ of income from putting crop in the ground may be eligible for CRP. Highly floodable land, river banks, etc...Something that actually benefits the environment.

Problem I have is investors buying up farm ground and putting 200 acres in CRP at 300 an acre. Or as in a couple people around me, the CRP actually makes their yearly payments! Hell of an investment if you never have to pay for it.

Yes they put the front end money down but so do you in your home. Does government give you money every month for just owning a home?

And if that CRP becomes public land removes people from the land welfare program and makes them pay for their "investment" then I'm all for it.

Some will still buy the ground because they are investors and not hunters. Win win for investors and hunters at that point.

Thanks all for being cordial in the discussion!

I’m going to predict we still have programs such as filter strips, wetland restoration, riparian buffers, & field windbreaks.

Not just for farmers … I think they scale down the program a bit . No public use option (required) it could be optional …

It might only be 5-20 acres per farm in the critical areas . That would not be conducive to allowing hunting on small acre areas…

Just my prediction

 

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[Steve-O]

Ha. You should look into that statement a bit. Government "subsidies" as you call them are broad and plentiful. I wouldn't describe CRP as such, but even if you choose to it is definitely not unique in that regard.

Please enlighten us since you have time to laugh and save me the extra research.

As a guy who owns a company, what handouts do you take?

CRP is a government handout to not do work. Could you survive your investment without the handout? Ground is an investment IF u aren't using it as your main source of income.

But maybe Im just looking at it all wrong and where my tax money goes.