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I had a beautiful small plot of white clover in June this year. The heat & drought hammered it. Has anyone tried a variety of white or red clover that deer like that is much more drought tolerant? Looking for a good stand heading into December.
 
Stoney said:
I had a beautiful small plot of white clover in June this year. The heat & drought hammered it. Has anyone tried a variety of white or red clover that deer like that is much more drought tolerant? Looking for a good stand heading into December.
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Durana clover, red & alfalfa are ur 3 best for drought like we had. I’d still have Alice white in there too.
 
Sligh1 said:
Durana clover, red & alfalfa are ur 3 best for drought like we had. I’d still have Alice white in there too.
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I’m in the south and hot, dry weather is normal.
I have not found any clover that comes close to Durana in terms of drought resistance.
In a very hot,dry year it will go dormant. Dormant to the point that you think it’s dead. No clover showing or very little at best.
When the cool rains and weather of fall come back. It will also. And will fill in very quickly
 
Nightvision said:
I’m in the south and hot, dry weather is normal.
I have not found any clover that comes close to Durana in terms of drought resistance.
In a very hot,dry year it will go dormant. Dormant to the point that you think it’s dead. No clover showing or very little at best.
When the cool rains and weather of fall come back. It will also. And will fill in very quickly
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Thinking about trying that variety due to our droughts the last couple of summers. Good draw for deer?
 
Bassattackr said:
Thinking about trying that variety due to our droughts the last couple of summers. Good draw for deer?
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Yes sir.
I think if it and a ladino were planted side by side the ladino may win in preference but Durana is the bulldog of the clover world.

I have some that has spilled out in some pines and is growing very well in pine straw. No soil amendments and no fertilizer at all. I’ll try and take a picture tomorrow.

It has to be the toughest most drought resistant clover out there. It will go dormant in a hot, dry summer but it will come back and fill in quickly.

Give it a try.
 
Here you guys go.

Anyone that’s knows about pines and pine straw know how acidic it makes the soil.

This is where some Durana spilled and is growing quite well considering nothing has been done to help it.
 

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I'd like to get crimson clover going in 2 of last years brassica plots to help get nitrogen in the ground, build soil, suppress weeds, etc. Would you guys plant the crimson soon and then terminate in late summer, to plant brassicas again this fall? OR wait, and add the crimson to my brassica mix in August?
 
YtailFreak said:
I'd like to get crimson clover going in 2 of last years brassica plots to help get nitrogen in the ground, build soil, suppress weeds, etc. Would you guys plant the crimson soon and then terminate in late summer, to plant brassicas again this fall? OR wait, and add the crimson to my brassica mix in August?
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I’d get it going now for sure. U could run brassicas later or do the rye mix too. If u did the rye mix- that’s where you would add clovers. Brassicas would be only brassicas. But ya, 100% I’d get it rocking asap. Deer love the crimson & need that nutrition.
 
May 15th, 2025

It's almost cheating how good of a clover stand you get the following spring, after fall seeding with a cereal grain..

Also went back through and frost seeded in February. If it stays this good, may keep this field through the fall.

Decisions..

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Thinkin Rut said:
I learned from last year...if you have a nice clover field, leave it. The weather is just too unpredictable.
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Definitely. These fall droughts are getting old fast..

Will either leave as is, or integrate some form of no til (drill) or min till disturbance (Roll through with disc straight - 0 degrees) where I interseed a cereal and/or brassicas.

Will see how it looks come August.
 
Thinkin Rut said:
I'm curious on which cereal grain you planted it with?
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I used winter wheat this time around. But you'll get a cleaner stand (a few less broadleaves) with cereal rye. It's allelopathic qualities are real, and IMO the result is a touch better.

Rye also grows a larger root mass than wheat, which I also think helps weed suppression, and allow the allelopathic chemicals to push out further. But the residue from rye can be a PITA compared to wheat, unless you want to mow more often. Or just let it dry down and you'll be baling hay :) Plusses and minuses..

Supposedly oats have the same allelopathic chemicals as rye, but I can tell you they do not have near the effect. I missed a spot in my rye/oat planting with rye, and the section of oats had the most impressive stand of wintercress (yellow rocket) I've seen in a while.

Granted there are always many factors at hand, but the result is evident..

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