OHIOshedder
New Member
I think they are 4" diameter, they are the blue vented tubes, maybe the vents will let in enough breeze to harden them?
letemgrow
PMA Member
The vented tubes are the only way to go where there are cold winter temps. It has been my experience that wider diameter tubes give a bigger diameter seedlings. Have not tested this on a wide scale to be absolutely certain tho, but if you have the time and money...double up some tubes and compare the results between single and double diameter tubes.
OHIOshedder
New Member
They have little punchouts like a hole puncher. I only halfway punched them out and left 'hanging chads' on the tubes that mostly block the vents. Maybe I need to go around and remove the hanging chads. If I see a few great performers of my rarer oaks, I may have to sacrifice a few tubes and try doubling them.
Central Iowa
Life Member
What determines what length of tube you want?
letemgrow
PMA Member
For me its deer browse, the 5 footers are needed to keep deer for constantly browsing the tops. Those does learn pretty fast what is in those tubes.
Central Iowa
Life Member
And what the drooling guy in the tree with the bow and fork wants! Shooting browsing acorn fattened does to fill the freezer Thanks, another mystery solved.
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Central Iowa
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Finally protected some of these direct seeded White Oaks so they are able to get past a year of browsing. These were planted a couple years ago and have been browsed back every year. I sprayed with Oust in April. My plan is to add around an acre a year or more if acorns are plentifull. Grand plan is to fill in about 10 acres.
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letemgrow
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LoessHillsArcher
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How have the fall planted acorns and chestnuts been working out for everyone? We're considering doing this instead of spring planting bareroot seedlings... but we are weighing the pros/cons of each still
letemgrow
PMA Member
Had about 75% germination rate this past fall with chestnuts and acorns...I like to plant 3-4 per tube of the acorns and 2 per tube of the American Chestnuts since I do not get many of them.
Pros:
Its quick, easy and there is not any transplant shock to that method.
Cons:
Weed control and protection is a must have...I use tubes and also keep the ground to bare dirt from a weed control perspective. Never had any issues with rodents this way getting in the tube and digging up the acorn.
This was an American Chestnut I planted 2 falls ago, this pic was taken in June or July last summer and it grew even more than that after-wards.
Dwarf Chinkapin planted 2 falls ago, just like the chestnut above...pic was taken last summer as well.
I have some oak growing in vented 5ft tubes, some are about half way up out of the tube others are close to the top. They’ve been in them for about 2 and ½ years. They all did well through the first summer but last summer and early this spring it seemed like I’d lost a few each season. They are for the most part on filed edges, so they get quite a bit of sun throughout the day. I’m thinking some of them get fried from the heat. When I picked up the tubes I was under the impression that it would be best to leave them on until the oaks is several feet out of the tube, then again some folks seem to pull them out of the tube after 2-3 years regardless of their height.
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letemgrow
PMA Member
I have some oak growing in vented 5ft tubes, some are about half way up out of the tube others are close to the top. They’ve been in them for about 2 and ½ years. They all did well through the first summer but last summer and early this spring it seemed like I’d lost a few each season. They are for the most part on filed edges, so they get quite a bit of sun throughout the day. I’m thinking some of them get fried from the heat. When I picked up the tubes I was under the impression that it would be best to leave them on until the oaks is several feet out of the tube, then again some folks seem to pull them out of the tube after 2-3 years regardless of their height.
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Any thoughts with this stage of trees would be appreciated.
Dont pull the tubes off this time of year, it can burn the leaves and set the tree back big time. Wait till they go dormant this fall, or come spring.
Are your tubes vented?
I have not been able to plant my seedlings so they are still in the rootmakers. SOme are having leaves turn brown and drop off. Is this heat related? I water routinely and add Miracle grow about once a week. Not real worried as this was just a small fun side project but was curious what went wrong. Bothering the Burr Oak more than the Northern reds.
letemgrow
PMA Member
Probably watered them too much, or too much fertilizer possibly? Are they in the rootmaker bags or still in the trays?