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120,000$ that isn't enough.... Take everything he has that is used for hunting. And bar him from ever getting another Iowa license again.
 
I wonder what all the people convicted of supplying tags to others where paid for those tags. Bet more then the fine.
 
mplane72 said:
I wonder what all the people convicted of supplying tags to others where paid for those tags. Bet more then the fine.
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Agree. The fine should be 10X what the tag would have cost the other person. So, for supplying to a non-resident, it would be several thousand dollars, not just a couple hundred.
 
Do you suppose that all of the nonresidents knew they were illegal?
How many of us have hunted out of state and just did what the "outfitter" told us was necessary? You need this, this, and that. Not all of them were charged with the same offenses. Some knew they were wrong, I'm thinking not all of them did.

Scenario: Shady outfitter tells client, "It's shotgun season, you can party hunt and tag your deer with someone elses tag." Client looks at regs and sees that it is allowed but doesn't look any further to get the specifics, placing his trust in the outfitter. Client is charged $xxxx, shoots a deer, then is handed a tag to put on it. In his/her mind they were legal.

As in the case above, I would think a lawsuit against the outfitter would be forthcoming.
 
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Several years ago there was an Outfitter in SE Iowa ( think VB county area) paid locals $75. to give up buck tag....got busted...so he pays $75. and charges NR $3,000. plus to party hunt..some of the NR probably knew, but some not that it was illegal.
 
its the hunters responsibility to know the laws of the state that they are hunting in. You dont get very far claiming ignorance in court. A lot of his clients came back every year including bow season so they knew. As for the outfitter he is a shady SOB in everything he does in life. They need to throw the book at this guy as he one who thinks fines are just an operational expense of doing business.
 
where's the line, "this bust couldn't have happened without the DNR's CellPhone Scanner thingy"?

Kidding aside, where is the loss of hunting rights statements? I agree, payment for tags was probably on-plane with payment for fine. Not hard to give away $500 for a resident tag to "party-hunt" on when an outfitter is taking in thousands for the hunt in the first place.

Wish there were more of these busts.
 
turtlshell said:
where's the line, "this bust couldn't have happened without the DNR's CellPhone Scanner thingy"
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Because it wouldn't be true. the DNR doesn't own one of these machines. But it's not too late to contribute;), not that I want to restart all that again.

I think you waved at me the other day. White ford with an IW sticker in the back? We were headed to the new Mexican restaurant. If it wasn't you I waved at somebody in Solon with the above pickup. Anybody in the Solon area needs to try both the Mexican restaurants in town. Both are excellent.
 
I guess I'd like to know more about what they exactly did that warranted the charges. I guess I want the facts before I'm quick the want to label these people as SOBs, Lower the Dirt, Scumbags, etc, etc.. There so much Hearsay that goes around that you hardly ever get a true situational picture behind what happened. Who knows.. Maybe there in the wrong, but I sure like to know what exactly happened.
 
Brenton is an outfitter who purchased tags from individuals at X amount then in turn sold those resident any sex tags to non residents that only purchased doe tags to hunt iowa. The non residents then shot deer and tagged them with the tags they purchased from said outfitter. Those tags had joe blows name and address on them. When busted brenton had a stack of tags in his possession with random peoples names on them. Dave Neff was a VP of a local bank and wife Sherry is the county Assessor who also leased the outfitter ground. Both Neffs pled guilty to their charges. I have gone rounds with this idiot outfitter and im sure this is just a drop in the bucket as to what he has done. He charged $3500 for a 5 day hunt plus found you an any sex tag. He was pissed when they quit selling NR archery doe tags. Wonder why.
 
^ Okay, Thanks, Scotton. That's a different picture than I got when I heard the original press release. What about the others that were charged? I remember there were quite bit of people that were mentioned in it.
 
Several of the people pled guilty and paid their fines. I think this is the tip of the iceberg for this guy. The DNR has been trying to get him for several years now. This guy is the definition of snake in the grass.
 
Glad that they were on top of this one. Serious consideration should be givento offering nr antlerless tags in the first place as this is widely abused. They removed the nr antlerless archery and late Mz for the same reason. It may remain to give family a chance to return to iowa and hunt with the group but unless all members of the group are present on the property it is easy to break the law.
 
Seems to me like the real "vehicle" for making this kind of scam fairly easy to pull off is the legality of Party Hunting. If it wasn't legal for a NR hunter to kill an antlered deer in shotgun season and have a Resident hunter tag it, it seems like all this tag shuffling would be much more difficult to get away with.
 
Just remember, if there is a loop hole, guys like this will exploit it. Just like "Im tracking a deer on your property" just to slowly push deer off your sanctuary...hate that law also.
 
Fishbonker said:
I think you waved at me the other day. White ford with an IW sticker in the back? We were headed to the new Mexican restaurant. If it wasn't you I waved at somebody in Solon with the above pickup. Anybody in the Solon area needs to try both the Mexican restaurants in town. Both are excellent.
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Frida's the better choice for restaurants...but I support them both. Shop-local!

Right brand, wrong make and color. Blue exploder.
 
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