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Shotgun hunting observation

IowaBowHunter1983

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I spend alot time driving around during shotgun just making sure folks are behaving. Went into several food joints with groups there.

The average shotgun hunter is 50+ year old. I see younger guys here and there but for most part, the groups are aging.

I think a part of it is access. The number of farms that allow groups hunting gets smaller by the year. Beyond that I think younger generation hunts differently. More sitting, more management, etc.

Thoughts and observations?
 
That’s an interesting observation Rob. My group is younger….im the oldest at 44. Also, there’s only 4 of us. We do one push a season, and it’s on the neighbors property, my brother in laws farm is only 130 acres, sitting makes way more sense.
 
I’ve noticed here- it’s the older dads (60+) with the sons, sometimes grandkids but typically once the old man says he is done- the groups quit as everyone wants to just sit or just don’t go. I know of only one group with multiple 30 year olds, and that group is very “techy” and very picky. But also here- most of the groups switched from shotgun to Late Muzzy- and I have more late muzzy groups to worry about versus shotgun. They have literally said since they never see the DNR while out late muzzy it makes more sense- fishy right.
 
Rob you bring up a point that I have thought about for a few years and concerns me in many ways. In no way am I blaming anyone but we are our own worst enemies when it comes to the long term viability of all types of hunting/trapping. As more and more landowners and hunters limit access to land to control THEIR deer it limits the younger hunters’ ability to take an interest in the sport. GREATLY fueled by the age of electronics and misguided expectations influenced by SM and TV deer. The generation that you observed still remember the days when Iowa deer drives were a tradition. I see very few groups anymore. 20 years ago a couple buddies and I would drive around during Saturdays of shotgun seasons to see all the big bucks getting bumped out by groups pushing, now only a couple groups in the area. As we have transitioned to limited access and fewer deer, the managers have gotten even more restrictive on access to save their deer. We should all be concerned about the future of this sport as by percentage there are fewer hunters which means more of a minority interest for our elected officials to represent and less votes. Yes, I am sure the younger hunters are likely forced into and/or choose to sit and manage now but more restricted access forces that hand. Just FYI a GENERAL observation MO has all but forgotten deer drives during rifle season. 25 years ago in my teens groups pushing almost every section, none now other than a random ditch or thicket with a few hunters. I know of one group in MO still doing big drives. I only bow hunt and feel sitting allows for being more selective, your original observation is correct and traditional deer party drives will be all but gone when those 50 yo plus hunters give it up, IMO. Good post.
 
Up untill about 15 years ago, our " many" riverbottoms were so orange it was blinding.

Nowadays, I can drive MILES and not see a speck.

Opening day used to sound like WW2. Doubt I heard 25 shots throughout the whole season this year.

I did not see one youngster out hunting. (Disturbing).

I'm not sure how we're gonna handle our deer population in the future with so very few out hunting.
 
My group of 10/11 is pretty much all young guys except 3 of us that have been in the group and on the same properties for over 30 years. The rest of the group is younger guys all with young boys from 5-12 years old. All of which tagged along at some point this year. 3 of the older ones shot their first deer. 2 sitting with their dads and one sitting with his grandpa. Grandpa, who owns the farm we were on was as happy as the boy. Sunday afternoon there was 10 little boys (all cousins) tagging along. All of them had a blast. It was like Xmas for them.
 
I hunted the first season. We heard very few shots. I doubt there was a hunter within a mile from me . I saw one other truck parked in the 2 sections by me…

There was standing corn to my north and the deer were definitely in there ! We saw a bunch of deer there the night before the season .

It was then 63 degrees and windy the first two days… So very little activity.

I’d say a blessing as the bucks & does survived and it looks like they will have a fairly easy winter !
 
On a related note…. Has anybody ever thought of how our love of bowhunting and other forms of hunting may not be not be as pure as we think? Every year I just can’t help but look at the amount of money,time and effort I put into bowhunting while other forms of hunting seem so much simpler. It’s almost like an entire industry looked at us all and saw us as suckers that could be sold products over three months while those old dudes that got only 5-9 days to hunt get by with very little invested. Makes me wonder. I love all seasons but have that thought every now and then.
 
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On a related note…. Has anybody ever thought of how our love of bowhunting and other forms of hunting may not be not be as pure as we think? Every year I just can’t help but look at the amount of money,time and effort I put into bowhunting while other forms of hunting seem so much simpler. It’s almost like an entire industry looked at us all and saw us as suckers that could be sold products over three months while those old dudes that got only 5-9 days to hunt get by with very little invested. Makes me wonder. I love all seasons but have that thought every now and then.
yep. ive sat there and start to add everything up while in the stand. Sticks, stand, lifeline, bowhanger, pack, boots, base layers, outlayers, gloves, waist mit, neck gator, stocking cap, harness, binos, range finder, release, broadheads, arrows, sight, arrow rest, quiver, grunt call, rattle, boot blankets. Just sitting there in that moment can easily be several thousand dollars. But then I remember how long ive had a lot of this stuff, most of it 10+ years, so its definitely got its use out of. If you take care of things much of it can about last you a lifetime. I find myself getting annoyed when I get ready at how much crap I take in/out everytime.

But, no one is making us buy all that, you can just easily go the cheap route. Just use used equipment and hunt out of a couple naturally made blinds/brush pile etc like I did when I started.

I've gone with a group the past four years now first season gun, theres about 12-14 of us. Its mostly older guys that are about aged out, once they are done the group will be done as they are the ones with the access to the properties we go. Driving to/from I dont recall ever seeing other groups out, hardly even pass another vehicle with someone wearing orange.

In one way it sad to see the groups end, it is fun, but in another it should help the age structure for sure I would think.
 
On a related note…. Has anybody ever thought of how our love of bowhunting and other forms of hunting may not be not be as pure as we think? Every year I just can’t help but look at the amount of money,time and effort I put into bowhunting while other forms of hunting seem so much simpler. It’s almost like an entire industry looked at us all and saw us as suckers that could be sold products over three months while those old dudes that got only 5-9 days to hunt get by with very little invested. Makes me wonder. I love all seasons but have that thought every now and then.
Yes, but bow hunting is fun!
 
On a related note…. Has anybody ever thought of how our love of bowhunting and other forms of hunting may not be not be as pure as we think? Every year I just can’t help but look at the amount of money,time and effort I put into bowhunting while other forms of hunting seem so much simpler. It’s almost like an entire industry looked at us all and saw us as suckers that could be sold products over three months while those old dudes that got only 5-9 days to hunt get by with very little invested. Makes me wonder. I love all seasons but have that thought every now and then.
absolutely!!! Even this sport of deer hunting!!!…. “How much do u think u spend per lbs of venison?!?!?!” OH MY GOSH!!!…. Lemme put it this way…. I probably could eat freshly flown in lobster & caviar for breakfast lunch & dinner for what venison costs me! It’s crazy. & ya, my hunting season (with all the work) is probably 330-ish days a year. U probably have a point with 5-9 days into hunting. ;)
Another crazy thought…. Say it’s 330 days x 8 hours (probably a LOT more than that!!!) is 2,640 hours. Add maybe 200 hours of hunting…. 2,840 hours or 170,400 minutes per year to top the experience off with a hunt that usually comes down to what????? 1-5 MINUTES?!?!
& I still wouldn’t change a thing!!! :)
 
absolutely!!! Even this sport of deer hunting!!!…. “How much do u think u spend per lbs of venison?!?!?!” OH MY GOSH!!!…. Lemme put it this way…. I probably could eat freshly flown in lobster & caviar for breakfast lunch & dinner for what venison costs me! It’s crazy. & ya, my hunting season (with all the work) is probably 330-ish days a year. U probably have a point with 5-9 days into hunting. ;)
Another crazy thought…. Say it’s 330 days x 8 hours (probably a LOT more than that!!!) is 2,640 hours. Add maybe 200 hours of hunting…. 2,840 hours or 170,400 minutes per year to top the experience off with a hunt that usually comes down to what????? 1-5 MINUTES?!?!
& I still wouldn’t change a thing!!! :)

Haha. Sometimes it’s best to not actually do the math!


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