EatSleepHunt
Active Member
I am going to investigate my fields a little closer when I get a chance. Might hit it this weekend. If there is no switch coming up.
bwese
Active Member
Its heavy clay, and cir variety. All the screens and fields I have of it were shooting up this weekend. We haven't had measurable snow for a long time and not much rain to speak of. It finally started warming up and there have been some very warm days. Soil temp is 62 degrees 4 inches down on bare soil.
I had to be careful when I sprayed my burndown on my bean plots so I didn't hit the switch.
If one is going to check for growth look at the clumps of last years switch that get the most sun exposure and that will tell you right away if one's established switch has started growing.
Here's three pics I walked out and took this morning to ease the minds of the unbelievers
This switch is in shadows until about 8. It is on a hill that faces west but other cir stands I saw growing on are in bottoms and hill tops and face north, south, and west.
I didn't walk way into large fields of cir but my screens and in the fields 5 yards or so and they all had shoots popping. I'd be very careful spraying established stand this year. I would have bet the other way prior to witnessing the growth I have.
I had to be careful when I sprayed my burndown on my bean plots so I didn't hit the switch.
If one is going to check for growth look at the clumps of last years switch that get the most sun exposure and that will tell you right away if one's established switch has started growing.
Here's three pics I walked out and took this morning to ease the minds of the unbelievers
This switch is in shadows until about 8. It is on a hill that faces west but other cir stands I saw growing on are in bottoms and hill tops and face north, south, and west.
I didn't walk way into large fields of cir but my screens and in the fields 5 yards or so and they all had shoots popping. I'd be very careful spraying established stand this year. I would have bet the other way prior to witnessing the growth I have.
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yeah up on me for a couple days now. That rain and HEAT go er' going. Now.... where's the mushrooms?!
2nd year switch coming in a hurry. Cleaned up with gly and atrazine a few weeks ago.
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Heat and rain. Same field only 1.5 weeks later. Coming on like crazy
Don't see any of the new planted stuff coming yet.
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Jbohn
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Took me about 5 years to figure out switch grass glad I did. It for sure made me insane for a few years when to spray and trying different herbicides to clean it up , whens it going to come up . For new stands it's like you show up 1 day and there it is and your like where did that come from might be May might be middle of July . I remember worrying because had weeds in it or foxtail is it going to make it .For sure has been the #1 habitat enhancement I really learned to be patient even know at first it was driving me nuts.. It been a game changer for me along with other Improvements. I love it... Just takes time managing it then all of sudden your like man I did it I created this. Stands are awesome if there clean and few weeds here and there don't hurt in pockets and what not. Diversity !
. I remember worrying because had weeds in it or foxtail is it going to make it .For sure has been the #1 habitat enhancement I really learned to be patient even know at first it was driving me nuts.. It been a game changer for me along with other Improvements. I love it... Just takes time managing it then all of sudden your like man I did it I created this. Stands are awesome if there clean and few weeds here and there don't hurt in pockets and what not. Diversity !
Jbohn
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Checked the first burn on a 3 year old stand, cleaned it up and really set it loose plant's where up about knee high burned May 1st.. Really Cleaned it up set it free I can see how big that plants have gotten with setting back competition. .. Late burns for me ....Was in there this week end looking at it .. There where fawns everywhere..
It “should”. I would not call quinclorac a “powerful” herbicide. If it were me.... I’d add atrazine & crop oil to the mix. U wanna keep the mowing option in back pocket too if u need to keep that canopy open. U have a lot of options here in all honesty. If ever wanna post pics of situation if more ?’s or wanna get real specific - post em. Good luck & sounds like u got a dang good project and progress made!!!
northcedar
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I have a great stand of CIR/Kanlow switch, thanks also to Paul and this site. A couple days ago I mowed all of it short to the ground when I saw just how much Canada thistle and poison hemlock were in it. Since it's so early in June and we have tons of moisture, I'm not concerned about getting all my growth back by August. But would any of you guys still try to smoke the thistles by spraying it all with say Crossbow just as things green back up in a week or so? Or would you think the switch will come out of the gate strong after the mowing and dominate at least just for this year while the thistles are hurting, and try to get them sprayed out next year earlier in the season?
I would spay with 2,4-D. I did that to a patch and it is looking good. Thistles very much dead.
HorseDoctor
PMA Member
In my experience, Canada thistle is not controlled well with 2,4-d. Looks dead but regrow from roots almost immediately. Have had better luck with Milestone but even that’s far short of a sure thing! I would spray with that and then hit it early next spring withGly. Once you have it in grass, I think you’re in for a never ending battle. Wish Canada would take this one back!!!
In my experience, Canada thistle is not controlled well with 2,4-d. Looks dead but regrow from roots almost immediately. Have had better luck with Milestone but even that’s far short of a sure thing! I would spray with that and then hit it early next spring withGly. Once you have it in grass, I think you’re in for a never ending battle. Wish Canada would take this one back!!!
Have to hit it early and hard. If it gets any size to it, agree.... not going to work.
hillrunner
PMA Member
Hit it with grazon , kills it dead, even when tall.
