Hardwood11
It is going to be a good fall!
No you won’t change my opinion. But post some actual numbers on how you are worse off …than in 2022, 23, 24.
Be specific…
Be specific…
CottonwoodCanyon
PMA Member
Corporate profits do not correlate to individual paychecks of employees. This is where trickle-down economics breaks down. Anyone can tell you those profits aren't getting back to regular employees.
Some stats to ponder- record high car repossessions and record high consumer credit card debt over $1.25 trillion
We can argue stats vs perceptions vs implications all day but I'm telling you guys, a lot of people have blinders on as this horse is headed for the cliff. I don't want a blue wave but I don't see how there isn't one coming. Doing better than Obama and Biden is the bar? Raise it because that's a really low bar and leaves an opening for Dem candidates in swing states/districts.
Hardwood11
It is going to be a good fall!
Cottonwood—We will have to agree to disagree…
Here is what I’m dealing with in Minnesota.
9% taxation on income
.44% taxation to pay for family leave (paying employees not to work).
A gun control bill that bans ARs
19 billion tax payer $$ lost to fraud . Mostly in Minneapolis/St.Paul by minorities.
Democrat ads are stressing their hate for law enforcement, still protesting ICE & pushing transgender rights .
Tampons already in men’s bathrooms (Thanks Tim)
Illegals have and will vote in our elections, despite it being unconstitutional.
Guys beating up on girls in sports is allowed here.
I honestly don’t think, any Iowa resident has 10% of the issues we do as a Blue state.
Here is what I’m dealing with in Minnesota.
9% taxation on income
.44% taxation to pay for family leave (paying employees not to work).
A gun control bill that bans ARs
19 billion tax payer $$ lost to fraud . Mostly in Minneapolis/St.Paul by minorities.
Democrat ads are stressing their hate for law enforcement, still protesting ICE & pushing transgender rights .
Tampons already in men’s bathrooms (Thanks Tim)
Illegals have and will vote in our elections, despite it being unconstitutional.
Guys beating up on girls in sports is allowed here.
I honestly don’t think, any Iowa resident has 10% of the issues we do as a Blue state.
CottonwoodCanyon
PMA Member
Fair. Sometimes I forget you're in MN. I do not envy you there. You've lost to the extreme left.
booneriverbucks
PMA Member
There sure is!
I was joking
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booneriverbucks
PMA Member
My problem with Lahn is he is jumping on the bandwagon of anti-modern ag half truths and he’s obviously smart enough to know better. Both major political parties have people dabbling in this.. I could go on for hours and hours and pages and pages about this! Will save you the time. Anyone could do a quick search on how many people we could feed without pesticides and synthetic fertilizers.. it’s not scaleable at this time.. or likely ever.. unless you enjoy eating bugs, want twice the land farmed than what currently is and want half the world to starve and enjoy constant war due to lack of resources. Why are smart people leaving out both sides of the issue?? We get to mess around with “conservation” and enjoy deer hunting for sport all because modern ag helps guarantee us a stable food supply.
My question with Lahn is that he obviously knows all of this and tends to leave out these points.. why??? What is his motive?? I honestly don’t know or have any guess why.
He’s doing great work bringing attention to some huge ag issues tho.. especially how few companies control the input markets. I also wonder why he is so against land being owned in corporations, trusts, etc.. there are plenty of legitimate reasons and he knows this but is trying to convince voters every acre of land owned by a corp etc is suspicious. Why??
Your nitrogen point is spot on!! Do you honestly know anyone that farms that isn’t actively trying to make their nitrogen dollars more efficient??? Nobody wants their $$ getting washed away downstream. Lots of smart people are already working on how to manage nitrogen better.. everyone that farms wishes they knew the answer. We don’t need to throw the anti- ag crowd a bone just because they are ignorant of reality.
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I think a 120’ buffer strip along any open water would help alot. So many fields by me where the farmer is planting one row literally in standing water at times. Just gotta have that extra foot even if we’re throwing the seed away. And I can guarantee you if it got planted it’s getting sprayed.
I’ll get hated on for this comment and I am guessing this probably isn’t why he says trusts are suspicious but the trusts are 100% scheme and devise to pass the value on to heirs and side step paying for assisted living and nursing homes through Medicaid rather than running through the accumulated wealth at taxpayer expense. Shouldn’t really have our cake and eat it too.
booneriverbucks
PMA Member
Haha. Do you look forward to giving your money away to a nursing home or our government??
If we can use trusts for everything else why not land? I understand what you are saying.. Just wondering why Lahn is really against it. Also, why does anyone really care who owns what?? Not a question to you just in general? Should my stock portfolio, gold and diamonds buried in my backyard, MY GUNS also be public knowledge?? Not a direct question to you. Just rhetorical
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booneriverbucks
PMA Member
Yep!! Buffers are one of the most promising and most needed things! Real obvious and fast results.. slowest step is implementing them unfortunately.. I should say implementing with government funding.. everybody should remember all of this stuff can be done on your own dime at any time if you are a real conservation warrior! Gotta make conservation cool again!! Even when you pay for it yourself!!
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Not saying for or against but I do see a bit of hypocrisy to it. The same people that want to shelter their assets and not pay a dime in taxes have no problem having a hand out for crop insurance subsidies or Medicare if nursing homes are needed later in life. Yet they criticize food stamps and other government assistance. I doubt that is his reasoning but I could make topics like that fit.Haha. Do you look forward to giving your money away to a nursing home or our government??
booneriverbucks
PMA Member
I totally understand what you are saying! My issue is why is land the target right now?? I don’t know.. so many people own so many different assets all protected by the same systems. Why should Joe Blow easily be able to look up and see how much land I own??? Should he also have access to my bank account balances and investment records.. Again, my response isn’t directed at you. Just wondering why people are wanting easier access to see the ownership of assets. Are they gearing up for a communist takeover ( or perhaps a globalist or Zionist takeover)??.. 15 years or so ago preparing for the Zombie apocalypse may have been a legitimate excuse… Why do people really care?? Where does it end? Why are they entitled to this info? In my opinion, I put that land in a trust, llc, corp etc cuz it’s none of your business. Why do some think it is their business?? The more I think about it the more disturbing it gets.
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Hardwood11
It is going to be a good fall!
This is my understanding of trusts.. we have one now . Basically because Minnesota has a large state death tax .
Trusts do NOT protect your assets from a nursing home . I was told that by several attorneys. You would have to transfer the ownership in the land to your kids .
Therefore I bought life insurance with a Long Term Care Rider as a counter to that .
My sons will inherit my farms, but the trust we set up… does not protect it from the nursing home ! If anyone else has a counter argument on that. I’d be happy to hear it .
Trusts do NOT protect your assets from a nursing home . I was told that by several attorneys. You would have to transfer the ownership in the land to your kids .
Therefore I bought life insurance with a Long Term Care Rider as a counter to that .
My sons will inherit my farms, but the trust we set up… does not protect it from the nursing home ! If anyone else has a counter argument on that. I’d be happy to hear it .
You would know how many different chemicals are there that have a restriction on how close they can be sprayed to the water I think atrazine is 66 feet? I would imagine 99% of corn acres in Iowa are sprayed with atrazine once if not twice. so if you see corn within 66 feet of water that laws 99% chance being broken, I wonder how many others have a restriction like that not to mention the old Wells out in the fields where the corn is planted 2 feet from the concrete well cap on each side would hate to know how many of those get sprayed over with a ground rig or a airplane or a drone or a helicopter.Yep!! Buffers are one of the most promising and most needed things! Real obvious and fast results.. slowest step is implementing them unfortunately.. I should say implementing with government funding.. everybody should remember all of this stuff can be done on your own dime at any time if you are a real conservation warrior! Gotta make conservation cool again!! Even when you pay for it yourself!!
Revocable vs Irrevocable, irrevocable does shelter it.
Hardwood11
It is going to be a good fall!
Yeah, I guess that wasn’t an option in my situation. Since you give up control of the land.
I could definitely see a valuable tillable/income farm with heirs using an irrevocable trust—you can still get the income from cash rent.
RinggoCy
Well-Known Member
I had a big reply typed up last week but I saw the Barn Talk guys had Lahn on their show so I waited for them to release it so I could post it here for for everyone, but also in response to you as I think you should listen to him yourself because you're painting him in a way that isn't accurate... in my opinion. If you want to show me these anti-modern ag half truths he's all about please do.... you don't need to save me the time, I'll make the time. This is important, so please share them as I don't at all think he is someone that is somehow anti-modern ag and doesn't understand downstream implications of unproductive agriculture.
This is a good listen and hopefully some folks have some windshield time they can pop it on.
R gov debate…. All showed EXCEPT Feenstra. Can’t even have a debate & defend his views in a R forum for iowa voters. Ridiculous. If it’s Feenstra as nominee…. I strongly believe he will lose & the lack of support from the R side I’ve heard at the capital is profound.
Are there any reliable polls showing who’s got a better chance?
Too little done for polling in iowa. It’s kinda like Trump vs Kamala where finally they did that seltzer poll & he was way down. Then won by 13. One guys 2 cents- the other R’s have a better shot than Feenstra. If it’s Feenstra vs Sand…. In my strong belief- Sand is gonna win. The R’s would be making a huge mistake with Feenstra. Here’s one last unique perspective I’ll add…. When going to capital & talking to R’s on both house & senate members on quick thoughts on gov race…. Almost all of them did not want Feenstra. I didn’t talk to every one of them but I don’t recall any being big fans.
On the D side ….. all of them were clearly aligned with Sand going back 6 months ago or excited for him to run.
For the R’s…When your own party has little to no enthusiasm & makes comments like “he’s lazy”. “He doesn’t show up”. “He’s owned by farm bureau”, etc etc…. That’s clearly a huge problem & a real time poll I heard with my own ears at the capital.