Brassicas

[smithhunter1975]

Awesome. I'm assuming I should spray first and then plant to be safe or does it not matter?

Also, how do you determine how much thatch is too much? I don't really have a way to scrape any of the thatch off due to the plots location. The field I'm planting has been grassses for years so there is quite a bit of thatch coverage (Can see bare dirt if you look closely, but it is mostly covered)View attachment 130121

Won't matter if you spray gly before or after planting. Might try burning the dead thatch ahead of time to get better seed to soil contact. Can't quite see in the picture, but looks like some of the weeds are broadleaf that are likely resistant to gly.

 

[BeeYuu]

Won't matter if you spray gly before or after planting. Might try burning the dead thatch ahead of time to get better seed to soil contact. Can't quite see in the picture, but looks like some of the weeds are broadleaf that are likely resistant to gly.

Yes there a few broadleaf weeds but it’s mostly grasses that are the main issue


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[Daver]

Awesome. I'm assuming I should spray first and then plant to be safe or does it not matter?

Also, how do you determine how much thatch is too much? I don't really have a way to scrape any of the thatch off due to the plots location. The field I'm planting has been grassses for years so there is quite a bit of thatch coverage (Can see bare dirt if you look closely, but it is mostly covered)

I have had trouble with brassica germination in the past when I tried to work through too much thatch. Some is good, but you have to get your seed on /in the soil and not have such a mat of grass that it suppresses germination. It is hard to define "too much", but I do recognize the look of it now.

If you can get any type of a drag in there to scrape it up, I would do it. One time I drug it until it was clumped up and either pushed it off the field with the tractor bucket OR just left the clumps and planted around them. You could also think about burning the thatch off.

 

[BeeYuu]

I have had trouble with brassica germination in the past when I tried to work through too much thatch. Some is good, but you have to get your seed on /in the soil and not have such a mat of grass that it suppresses germination. It is hard to define "too much", but I do recognize the look of it now.

If you can get any type of a drag in there to scrape it up, I would do it. One time I drug it until it was clumped up and either pushed it off the field with the tractor bucket OR just left the clumps and planted around them. You could also think about burning the thatch off.

Might see what I can do to get a small pull behind disc back there. I know discing will create quite a bit of weed growth, but I'm scared the thatch is just too thick otherwise

 

[sep0667]

I'd like to try my hand at broadcasting some brassicas. I have a quarter acre spot in mind for a first go round. I have gly and 24d to kill off the grass/weeds in the spot. My question is about getting it sprayed around rains. Say it is dry one day, but supposed to rain the next. Is that a bad idea to spay if its going to rain the next day? Or say even spray in the morning if its supposed to rain later in the day?

 

[Sligh1]

I'd like to try my hand at broadcasting some brassicas. I have a quarter acre spot in mind for a first go round. I have gly and 24d to kill off the grass/weeds in the spot. My question is about getting it sprayed around rains. Say it is dry one day, but supposed to rain the next. Is that a bad idea to spay if its going to rain the next day? Or say even spray in the morning if its supposed to rain later in the day?

No issue at all. I’d prefer rain the next day if u applying 2,4-d. All that stuff is gonna kill the plant in first 60 minutes anyways.

Anyone on here…. No living plant when u plant brassicas …. Needs to all be dead. Like any N user: corn, brassicas, etc - doesn’t like competition & I would wanna have residue minimized. Like if a dude killed 2’ tall grass a couple weeks ago… way too much.

I personally like doing an additional GLY & Ammonium sulfate spray the day I seed brassicas. If any bit of weeds or anything is there. Gets those brassicas started with zero competition. If you planted with little grasses or broadleaves growing - they are already ahead of your brassicas by a good bit & will cause issues. When u walk away from seeding brassicas by making sure there’s not one living plant in there.
Another example I’ll do… maybe I got a section of soybeans that got eaten up…. I’ll spread in those and spray gly so the brassicas can get to filling those areas in & all the weeds are nuked.

 

[hillrunner]

I'd like to try my hand at broadcasting some brassicas. I have a quarter acre spot in mind for a first go round. I have gly and 24d to kill off the grass/weeds in the spot. My question is about getting it sprayed around rains. Say it is dry one day, but supposed to rain the next. Is that a bad idea to spay if its going to rain the next day? Or say even spray in the morning if its supposed to rain later in the day?

I think you'll want to wait 2 weeks after spraying 24d before seeding brassicas. It has some residual.

 

[sep0667]

Think I will get down there this weekend to spray. Come back in a couple weeks to burn it and broadcast, maybe spry gly again on any new weeds or grass that have sprouted up. Hopefully all these rains keep coming as I'll be planting it a little big later than ideal timing, more towards back half of August.

 

[BuckWrangler]

Planning on getting some brassicas in this weekend - can I fertilize and then spray gly right after in the same area?

 

[Sligh1]

Planning on getting some brassicas in this weekend - can I fertilize and then spray gly right after in the same area?

Yepper!!! I’ll fertilize, plant & spray all at same time.

 

[stickbow]

have a great plains 1006nt drill to plant turnips tomorrow and looked in small seed box chart, no rates listed for turnips. Rape is listed in main seed box but that must be a larger seed. Any ideas on settings. Thanks

 

[TheBig8]

We used small seed box setting 45 to get us about 6.5#/ac last week on a 606NT if that helps. You could also calibrate your drill by following the manual (highly recommended).

 

[stickbow]

thank you

 

[Hawk32]

I drilled 3 different brassica plots aug3rd. 2 were nice flat bottom areas. Both have have been various plots for a few years. one into corn stubble up on a hill with some slope. Few days after planting we got hammered with rain. Neighbor said he had 5 inches. Two bottom plots very little is coming up. Can see a few just poking through in a few areas. Looks like the ground is hard and crusted. One plot in the corn stubble looks great. Can row it perfect. Should I wait it out and see if it comes up, run a harrow over it and try and break up the soil a bit, or just cut loses and replant?

 

[stickbow]

Might give it a few more days assuming rain pushed seed deeper in the softer more open soil. If still low population by end of the week consider replant. Don't know if you could dig any up to see if sprouted but alot smaller than a corn or been seed. Maybe you would see a stalk rotting and that would tell you some thing. Could try the harrow but if doesn't work then we are loosing time/window for planting. Replanting without knowing doubles then seed population/ not good if does emerge. If nothing in the next few days I would either disk/start over or drill lower rate seed.

 

[stickbow]

post how it does so we can all learn from it please.

 

[Hawk32]

I’ll check it again Friday and see how it looks. Another light rain tonight. Maybe that will soften it up a little

 

[DMarley83]

I drilled 3 different brassica plots aug3rd. 2 were nice flat bottom areas. Both have have been various plots for a few years. one into corn stubble up on a hill with some slope. Few days after planting we got hammered with rain. Neighbor said he had 5 inches. Two bottom plots very little is coming up. Can see a few just poking through in a few areas. Looks like the ground is hard and crusted. One plot in the corn stubble looks great. Can row it perfect. Should I wait it out and see if it comes up, run a harrow over it and try and break up the soil a bit, or just cut loses and replant?

I would probably get in there and redrill before the next rain.

I drilled these in sunday afternoon, look pretty consistent

 

[smithhunter1975]

About 10 days ago I no-till drilled brassicas into a killed off clover plot that had a lot of foxtail in it. It was a plot that I frost seeded red clover last spring and didn't keep up on foxtail/weed control. Hatch quite a lot of thatch and appears that I don't have a very good stand because of thatch. Definitely a fair amount coming along but not near what I want. Should I till it up and replant brassicas right now? Or should I leave it alone and drill in rye/wheat/radish mix 9/1? Not sure if the rye/wheat/radish combo is going to have much more luck coming through the heave thatch/mulch?

 

[Bassattackr]

Not sure if the rye/wheat/radish combo is going to have much more luck coming through the heave thatch/mulch?

Yes, it definitely would come up better. If drilling, your coulters will carve a trench through the thatch, giving it a pathway to come up.

I'd add peas to that mix and stand back!