Windlooker
Well-Known Member
No. They are Iowans supporting Iowa hunting, hunters, and conservation efforts. Friends of Iowa were NRLOs led by a wealthy landowner from Texas. I believe his handle was OrionWhitetails back in the day.
OFFENSE!! 2 Bills to support!! SF 293 & SF 247 EMAIL IN!!! What a great change!!!!
This discussion or bill has ZERO to do with class warfare or keeping the little man down. It could be interpreted that way as it clearly is discussing increasing the acres for a THIRD buck tag. The real reason for the bill is based on:
1) the biology of how many mature bucks live in a section & the trend statewide of LESS mature bucks vs more. There’s also context that we are the only Midwest state where u can shoot 3+ bucks & have the smallest deer herd with least habitat.
2) there’s literally a dozen++++ legislators, law enforcement, views of dnr, etc that want this law adjusted. Complaints, violations, getting it buttoned up so folks who don’t qualify can more easily be removed, impacts to pressure & lock up of land, on & on. REMEMBER- the DNR for example can’t write a bill. They can’t hardly have a public opinion. Most of this has came from legislators trying to be the voice for the DNR.
3) from hunters, i overwhelmingly believe this is purely “what can we do to dial things back”? Improve things for everyone. & get broad support on the “easy small fixes that we hear a lot of complaints on”? Or the BIG things - we can do multiple.
4) it also saves some guys from themselves without even knowing it. The folks who can’t give an inch but will get rolled over if this ever flipped for the outfitters, special interest loving Legislators or a small group seeking XYZ NR perk - to keep using this as ammo to change our regs.
The ISC in good faith got with members to find feedback & common ground on this bill & have the dialogue. No one can say that isn’t frigin impressive & something few other orgs would ever do. And pivot based on member feedback. If you complain after they did that- sorry, u r in the .0001% that can’t be pleased & understand they have gone above & beyond with communication, work, dialogue & listening. Remember - ISC, IBA, etc- these groups aren’t about “what can I get so I make $!” They are 100% “how can we help the resource & lift EVERYONE up.
So- look what happened…. All parties come to table …. YOU!!!!! Either side of debate. Legislators, conservation groups, etc….. all sides said “I’m ok with some compromise”….. “how about we drop it from 40 acres to 10 & grandfather in current folks?” The only thing missing was “can we get better verification & enforcement for those that don’t own the land or have zero merit to be getting this tag (clean up the rolls so it’s accurate”?? “SURE- everyone agrees to that!!” & that’s probably what the will see.
1) the biology of how many mature bucks live in a section & the trend statewide of LESS mature bucks vs more. There’s also context that we are the only Midwest state where u can shoot 3+ bucks & have the smallest deer herd with least habitat.
2) there’s literally a dozen++++ legislators, law enforcement, views of dnr, etc that want this law adjusted. Complaints, violations, getting it buttoned up so folks who don’t qualify can more easily be removed, impacts to pressure & lock up of land, on & on. REMEMBER- the DNR for example can’t write a bill. They can’t hardly have a public opinion. Most of this has came from legislators trying to be the voice for the DNR.
3) from hunters, i overwhelmingly believe this is purely “what can we do to dial things back”? Improve things for everyone. & get broad support on the “easy small fixes that we hear a lot of complaints on”? Or the BIG things - we can do multiple.
4) it also saves some guys from themselves without even knowing it. The folks who can’t give an inch but will get rolled over if this ever flipped for the outfitters, special interest loving Legislators or a small group seeking XYZ NR perk - to keep using this as ammo to change our regs.
The ISC in good faith got with members to find feedback & common ground on this bill & have the dialogue. No one can say that isn’t frigin impressive & something few other orgs would ever do. And pivot based on member feedback. If you complain after they did that- sorry, u r in the .0001% that can’t be pleased & understand they have gone above & beyond with communication, work, dialogue & listening. Remember - ISC, IBA, etc- these groups aren’t about “what can I get so I make $!” They are 100% “how can we help the resource & lift EVERYONE up.
So- look what happened…. All parties come to table …. YOU!!!!! Either side of debate. Legislators, conservation groups, etc….. all sides said “I’m ok with some compromise”….. “how about we drop it from 40 acres to 10 & grandfather in current folks?” The only thing missing was “can we get better verification & enforcement for those that don’t own the land or have zero merit to be getting this tag (clean up the rolls so it’s accurate”?? “SURE- everyone agrees to that!!” & that’s probably what the will see.
JNRBRONC
Well-Known Member
My question is who would do the checking? DNR home office personnel? Do they have better things to do with their time?
People have already shown "how creative" they can be to dodge regulations. The cleanest and administratively easy approach is to shutter the whole program. Another case of a few bad apples spoiling the whole bunch.
Again, drop the any-sex LOT, offer a couple of LOT antlerless-only to help manage population for those who deem it necessary for their situation.
Windlooker
Well-Known Member
Not that hard. Eliminate the tenant LOT. DNR personnel look up a parcel with the applicants name. That’s it. Parcel must show adequate acreage and the name of the person receiving LOT. It’s a few minutes on the county assessors website. Done. If they’re are two names on a parcel they ask who wants the tag. Happened to me last year.
Thinkin Rut
PMA Member
Keep it at 40 and grandfather everyone in for a set time, say 3-5 years. Put them on notice. Keep the tags as they are now with a 2 buck limit. Hit your 2 and you're tagged out. Keep shotgun party hunting intact to satisfy that shrinking crowd. Everyone sacrifices. A genuine thank you Skip for the work that you put in no matter how it turns out.