You sound like Bernie Sanders to me. I hope if you have children you don’t teach them the stuff you’re preaching on here, we live in America anything is possible if you want it bad enough.
OFFENSE!! 2 Bills to support!! SF 293 & SF 247 EMAIL IN!!! What a great change!!!!
booneriverbucks
PMA Member
Sorry, you didn’t!! People who actively worked to drive up the price during their quest to sell “trophy deer” and then turned around and made it harder for others to do the same are the ones that created the class warfare. They will sit there and say the little guy is all about ME ME Me and not for the good of the herd. They raped the crap out of the whole system and don’t want anybody else to make a buck or have even the slightest advantage even tho they are doing the same thing others before them have done.
booneriverbucks
PMA Member
Haha. Yes!!! I’d rather be bernie than be the guy that owns 500 acres of prime deer habitat and yet still wastes my time complaining about how my neighbor with 20 acres is ruining my hunting!! Obviously it is not me and my big giant ego that can’t figure out how to get it done. It is my poor neighbor that spent his life’s savings to have a little piece of heaven that is screwing me out of the trophy of a lifetime!! Pathetic!!!
When I said examples I meant specific quotes from specific people about "trying to hold the younger generation down" as you describe.
I am not following the logic in most of this anyway.
Is the regulation potentially good or bad for the resource (deer)? If it's good, them I'm all for it.
There are alot of other things I'd like see pulled back in addition to the LOT acreage change. Take away my buck tag, my cell cams, my smokeless muzzleloader. I'll sell them all tomorrow and donate the money to charity if theyd change the laws. Take away a buck tag from me and everyone else in the state too. I think it be great.
Neither economics nor the price of land factor into the discussion imo.
I am not following the logic in most of this anyway.
Is the regulation potentially good or bad for the resource (deer)? If it's good, them I'm all for it.
There are alot of other things I'd like see pulled back in addition to the LOT acreage change. Take away my buck tag, my cell cams, my smokeless muzzleloader. I'll sell them all tomorrow and donate the money to charity if theyd change the laws. Take away a buck tag from me and everyone else in the state too. I think it be great.
Neither economics nor the price of land factor into the discussion imo.
Huh? How is anyone making it harder for anyone else? Cuz they might get 2 buck tags instead of 3? That makes life harder?
booneriverbucks
PMA Member
Love it!!!! I’m sorry I can’t come up with good enough words to let you know we are on the same page!!!! My problem is with the people who are in a little bit better standing whether it be land/money/whatever who do not want to sacrifice ABSOLUTELY anything at all for the good of the herd meanwhile they are pushing for a ton of people to give up way more than I’ve ever had to! I have literally bought/leased/ got permission on absolutely everything I could possibly do my entire adult life!! I am the A** hole!!!’ This bill doesn’t solve me. It doesn’t do anything for the good of the herd. It rigs the system to MY advantage. Totally totally agree there are MANY MANY things i should be giving up!!!! I could give 2 shi*ts about an extra tag!! Usually I only have one or maybe 2 bucks i’d even think about shooting in a given year! This bill doesn’t limit me at all in doing that. It only helps me in harvesting them by limiting my competition. Take away my rifle, take away my 24/7 surveillance. Take away a bunch of other crap I DON’T NEED! Don’t create an unnecessary enemy in my neighbor that owns an acre less than me.
booneriverbucks
PMA Member
Sorry!!! I know i’ve said plenty of BS before but if it is truly about the herd you are 100%%%%% correct!!!!!
daniel93077
Active Member
Let's be real. Zero need for landowner tag period. I'm in favor of getting rid of it completely or keeping it the same. Not a fan something that only benefits people like me who can afford to buy 40 acres when there is no legitimate need for it in the first place.
Up until Covid the price for rec ground was still relatively reasonable, the Covid craziness caused the massive price increase not old people that owned land before hand.
booneriverbucks
PMA Member
Yes!! Who’s the A*hole?? The guy that owns 35 acres and lets anybody hunt or the guy the owns 500+ and only lets a few close friends come in and shoot his leftovers. I’m not gonna say either way and I totally believe it’s any landowners right to decide that. Just sick of the attitude that a few know whats best. It’s garbage. We’ve been ravaged by ehd. Can’t let a emergency go to waste tho. Better scoop up what we can while we have the political cover to do it.
I have my doubts that is factually correct.. I’ve looked. Maybe I need glasses or couldn’t see it. No doubt a certain segment of the population also chose to drive us further into debt and begged the government to do everything possible to not disrupt the economy and their retirement funds. They had no problem small businesses were shut down as long as their 401k’s were good and social security wasn’t affected . They also told their families to stay away unless they were vaxxed and boosted 6 times. Again not everyone but their were plenty that sat there and watched their country go downhill as long as it wasn’t them them suffering all was well
Daver
PMA Member
Respectfully...you need to slow your roll sir. You are hurling semi-veiled insults towards a range of people here and yet you cannot identify ONE solid example of someone here on IW doing what you are so riled up about. In one post, above, you paint with a pretty wide brush...in another post you say that "Most are silent...". Which one is it...because it really can't be both.
For real...you are showing many signs of someone that has bought in to class warfare, "we v. them" baseline. FWIW, no one that I can think of in my life achieves lasting success happiness with that type of attitude and those that are always mad about the "deal" that the other guy got...will still be mad if they do get something for themselves. Calm down.
booneriverbucks
PMA Member
I’m highly successful. This isn’t my fight. My generation didn’t start the class warfare just like we didn’t up and decide that those that have less than us all of a sudden didn’t deserve the same privileges you took full advantage of
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booneriverbucks
PMA Member
Maybe next you will tell me how you worked part time at a fast food restaurant to pay for college and bought your first house for $30,000
Hardwood11
It is going to be a good fall!
Skyrocketing land prices are not just because Winke/Drury/Lakosky are promoting Iowa ! I live in Minnesota, you should see what some guy paid for an 80 of all timber ($9750/acre)
There’s no YouTube guys promoting my area . He just wanted it that bad ? Maybe he had land that bordered it ? I don’t know, makes no sense?
It’s everywhere…You have to go to Western North Dakota, dry pasture in Wyoming, maybe Maine to get cheap land .
How can anyone criticize a hunter for buying up farms when they were affordable?
It’s the American Dream ! Iowa is high, but so is Nebraska? Heck parts of South Dakota have tripled in 5 years.
If you do buy 22 acres in Iowa you can still get 2 buck tags ? In Minnesota if I shoot a buck in October (which I have) I’m done for the season. I either hunt another state, or I get the lab and go after pheasants… maybe catch big walleyes in the fall .
I don’t think anyone will be in Dire Straits if they go from 3 to 2 buck tags !
There’s no YouTube guys promoting my area . He just wanted it that bad ? Maybe he had land that bordered it ? I don’t know, makes no sense?It’s everywhere…You have to go to Western North Dakota, dry pasture in Wyoming, maybe Maine to get cheap land .
How can anyone criticize a hunter for buying up farms when they were affordable?
It’s the American Dream ! Iowa is high, but so is Nebraska? Heck parts of South Dakota have tripled in 5 years.
If you do buy 22 acres in Iowa you can still get 2 buck tags ? In Minnesota if I shoot a buck in October (which I have) I’m done for the season. I either hunt another state, or I get the lab and go after pheasants… maybe catch big walleyes in the fall .
I don’t think anyone will be in Dire Straits if they go from 3 to 2 buck tags !
booneriverbucks
PMA Member
Totally agree!!!!!! My problem is not with the price but with the changing of the regs. Why did a previous generation get by with less and now want the current generation to have to have more??? We all know the prices always go up. Previous generations absolutely loved their regs!! Now it’s not good anymore tho and we better add a few more hoops to keep the bottom down and us on top.Skyrocketing land prices are not just because Winke/Drury/Lakosky are promoting Iowa ! I live in Minnesota, you should see what some guy paid for an 80 of all timber ($9750/acre)
It’s everywhere…You have to go to Western North Dakota, dry pasture in Wyoming, maybe Maine to get cheap land .
How can anyone criticize a hunter for buying up farms when they were affordable?
It’s the American Dream ! Iowa is high, but so is Nebraska? Heck parts of South Dakota have tripled in 5 years.
If you do buy 22 acres in Iowa you can still get 2 buck tags ? In Minnesota if I shoot a buck in October (which I have) I’m done for the season. I either hunt another state, or I get the lab and go after pheasants… maybe catch big walleyes in the fall .
I don’t think anyone will be in Dire Straits if they go from 3 to 2 buck tags !
Daver
PMA Member
My first house was more than $30K, FWIW, but I also made a fraction of the money then than I do now. See how that works?
While in college I worked much more than PT hours, I worked mostly FT hours because I had to so I could afford to stay in, etc. Then, once out of college I worked every single day on the calendar, except for one weekend, for two years to buy a car and pay off what I had borrowed for college. I could on and on here.
To you though...I had it made, easy-peasy, etc...I can tell you though that it was quite a different story in reality. But yes, hard work, sacrifice, dedication to a goal, focus, etc, etc, and I was able to buy a farm...based an awful on choices that I made. I hope others can follow a similar path and am happy to see others succeed.
booneriverbucks
PMA Member
If you truly feel you haven’t had any advantages in life whether it be timing, inflation, kicking the can down the road ect.. you should take no offense to what I have said. My point is MANY MANY MANY people here and throughout the state have not been asked to sacrifice anything for the “the good of the herd” but yet you freely volunteer others to do so… how brave of you
booneriverbucks
PMA Member
I’ve done the same!! Well aware at the pace we are going it will not be possible for our kids, grandchildren, ect tho!!
What is going on here? Covid vaccines, inflation, price of first houses, working at McDonald's, class warfare.
None of this has to do with a reg that is good for the herd. Zero.
None of this has to do with a reg that is good for the herd. Zero.