Senate subcommittee meeting - SF 83, TUES 1:30- Kill all the deer - senate version. Attend, zoom, email…
Windlooker
Well-Known Member
I have more respect for the Drurys. They came well before the Lakoskys. They know the impact of nation wide come hunt Iowa messaging and keep quiet.
I’m sure Lee is a nice guy but come on. You broadcast 200 in deer every year knowing the hunting public yearns to come here, but supports the suppression of that very endeavor?? While it appears they do pretty well with the endorsements, new equipment every year etc. Hypocrisy at its best.
Maybe we need to take a page from Trumps playbook and drain the swamp!
I’m sure Lee is a nice guy but come on. You broadcast 200 in deer every year knowing the hunting public yearns to come here, but supports the suppression of that very endeavor?? While it appears they do pretty well with the endorsements, new equipment every year etc. Hypocrisy at its best.
Maybe we need to take a page from Trumps playbook and drain the swamp!
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It’s been a long time since I’ve been around those guys- Lee was always down to earth it seemed. Drurys were always pretty high and mighty (I was around each crew for about 3 years each)
Ishi
PMA Member
With his track record I’ve left his ballot blank the last couple elections! I hope he stays on our side plus he’ll get another vote the next time he’s up for office
Never know maybe Trumps common sense approach is filtering on down to all state officials!
tall@wide
PMA Member
I agree. This needs to be enforced..it's out of control now near me.
Lee has been vocal & active on supporting us. Done things behind scenes. I don’t dislike drury at all, just haven’t seen em take a stand for what’s right or support the resource when it’s under attack or trying to be exploited. I sincerely hope they get involved & speak out for what’s right when the scumbags start their attacks.
Lindsay’s have supported us. Jay Gregory. Midwest whitetail. Bowmar (like him or not- he’s given $, donated hunts & constantly asks what he can do to help). Ton of folks on various podcasts. U name it. Tons of support. Which is great!!! We need more support from “those with voices” but far more …. Need the everyday guy & serious hunters who understand this to join in.
What’s won this so far…. Big #’s of hunters ACTING, funding, getting their friends on board, showing up, emailing, etc. & those voices have had wise, thought through messages & conversations. That’s the other key…. We are not a bunch of blow hards here that just bitch. We have the FACTS on our side!!! We have the reality on the ground, biology, experience & PASSION to bring home the right message & fight. That’s why some groups with far more $ & influence have lost…. They don’t have the facts. They simply have “some angry dudes” or “GREED” or “ME ME ME” & some $. They don’t have all the things our side does. Keep building on what we got going & we will continue to make huge difference.
tall@wide
PMA Member
I think a well spoken female hunter would help a lot at the capital. Some of the lawmakers would listen close to a well spoken female who knows her stuff.
Hardwood11
It is going to be a good fall!
I understand what you are saying. Lee moved from Minnesota to Iowa due to the obviously better hunting situation. He’s kind of living the American dream, I’d really hate to discourage that.
Maybe a disclosure page on his hunting videos that says…it will take you five years to hunt Iowa and don’t expect a buck like this (200 incher) to be in the area you are hunting !
Windlooker
Well-Known Member
Live that dream, kill big deer and so on. But don’t advocate on issues that deter hunting in Iowa when you’re part of the reason certain issues and legislation occur. Just be quiet. To me, I’m in the minority here, I view it as hypocritical.
For some hunting in Iowa is like going to a strip club. You can watch but don’t dare touch. It’s been created by resident hunting stars.
For some hunting in Iowa is like going to a strip club. You can watch but don’t dare touch. It’s been created by resident hunting stars.
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Fair Points. I don’t think he’s shy that he has a lot of ground & puts no limits on the work, time, $, improvements done. I’d keep this in mind…. The folks who do that is probably less than .01% of the farms in iowa. I’d bet there’s 5-10 guys in “those areas” that have far more hunting & opportunities due to those folks as well. I understand why folks can sour on “wealthy, big land, big name, no limits” when it creates a false perception of what hunting is like here. On the other hand…. I personally think that “energy” or “focus” should go on the 75% of farms in Deer country that are: stomped in & eroded cattle wastelands, kill em all farms, no habitat improvements, no forest management or conservation of any kind, etc etc. TAKE TAKE TAKE all you can off the land & don’t give back. I see tons of farms all the time that produce 10% of what they could just cause they are disasters… farms like that are common in every neighborhood VS the guy managing for a balanced herd & exceptional habitat with abundant sustainable hunting - minority by far. Loosely speaking, my thoughts revolve around how the average farms can be better & how the experiences for the everyday working folks & kids can be better in the future.
T_Max
PMA Member
Just a thought. Can the IBA or ISC have some way for folks to opt into text/SMS alerts? Seems like folks might be getting the news a little late. Even if it was a short message such as "BILL ALERT. CHECK IW FOR DETAILS." That would let me know to look around. I am guilty of not hitting the forums every day and unfortunately that is where I get most of my news...
How about, like you said in the podcast Skip, introduce a bill that gives the power back to the DNR to regulate hunting in the state?
THIS!!!^^^^^ 100% agree. We had it right for decades in iowa until Brandstad sold out to Farm Bureau & neutered the DNR & their ability to function an influence in their field. He silenced them & diverted all the power to the politicians (who almost all do not hunt & have very little understanding of wildlife, biology, hunting/fishing economics, etc). When we pin down the point in time Iowa’s deer herd & hunting went into rapid decline & massive changes/liberalization took place .. it was that time in Brandstad’s term. What he did to our resource is the federal equivalent of what Biden did to our nation.
100% this issue will be getting attention & use of political capital to FIX a huge politically created mistake.
Hardwood11
It is going to be a good fall!
I’d prefer it be in the hands of the people/hunters! The ability to vote in major issues/limits/seasons would really help !
The Iowa DNR does a pretty good job, but lots of states have DNR employees that are very liberal and push issues that are not good for the sportsman (Minnesota) as an example !
I have not seen one decision they made that has helped deer hunting or walleye fishing in years. They finally are lowering the walleye limit to 4 (from 6) after discussing it for 10+ years ?
Frustrating!
booneriverbucks
PMA Member
Very true. It’s probably best for both the DNR and legislature to somehow have a say in things. Would hate to give total power to unelected officials. Works out great when you agree with them but that can sure come back to bite you at times.
Windlooker
Well-Known Member
There needs to be a committee or board comprised of the DNR, outdoor educated reps/sens and hunters to discuss all issues. All are involved, not a singular group can make informed decisions. Rules, regs and legislation can be planned year to year.
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Hardwood11
It is going to be a good fall!
The DNR is not elected . That’s one of my main concerns. Several legislators do not hunt, and have no idea what to vote on .
In Minnesota for instance two Minneapolis Hmong legislators introduced a crossbow bill, so that their people would have an easier time “shooting game” ?
It passed easy, as the Democrats all sided with them, didn’t want to hurt their feelings. Might have been some Republican too ?
No restrictions, nothing. Fire away.
booneriverbucks
PMA Member
Yep. Exactly. Don’t want to give too much power to the unelected DNR is what I meant. They should have some input on things but giving them total power could backfire big time someday.
What we had before was a “blended power”. Dnr advised & could have “opinions” & they worked with politicians to craft regs. Now it’s fully at the hands of politicians. No opinions allowed. It’s kinda like “do not speak unless you’re asked!” When legislator calls on them for data for example, they can provide it. They cannot express a position when it comes to wildlife regulations. Think of that. That’s crazy. I totally agree with all of above…. Bureaucracy run mad is NOT what we want. But, we want the DNR to have a say & opinions/expertise on wildlife regulations.