deep woods goat hunter
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Clover
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I kinda like mowing rye NOW or a week ago. What worries me is any day now…. It’ll be fawn-city in the rye. If I do it now… I will walk it all before hand. Almost makes me sick to chop up a fawn.The reason I asked is I think I prematurely mowed my Rye
Thinkin Rut
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Bassattackr
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As long as rye has made it to the boot stage (grain head inside flag leaf), mowing should pretty well terminate it. Emergence (before pollinating) will also mow kill.
Thinkin Rut
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I should be good then. THANK YOU!
So I’m looking at getting a clover area seeded but have been behind the game this year- am I better off waiting to fall seed? I am tempted to plant something (corn or beans I suppose) and then fall seed clover- seemed like when I wanted to get it done it was to wet, and now we haven’t had a drop of rain in 3 1/2 weeks but talking rain Tuesday- and of course I’m on the road today…
Bassattackr
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100% fall seed. Clover is a cool season plant. You're in the tail end of the cool season and at the start of the warm season, I would not plant any cool season plant right now.
Shoot for mid-August and plant with a cereal grain. Can mix in annuals in like Crimson, Berseem into your perennial stand if you want to see some fall growth.
Like above says- fall is better. Now… if u have the time & space & want to try it…. Cannot hurt to try. Other than wasted time, seed, etc. The key: RAIN. That’s it. If you get good rains (& on decent soil) …. It’ll be just fine. If it rains & then shuts off for a month- no go. I remember a wet year on a new farm getting some established in JULY. If water stays coming… fine. That’s always a big IF.
sep0667
Land of the Whitetail
Yesterday, 5/18, I broadcasted some clover seed. I know its late, but wanted to give it a try. Couple weeks ago I sprayed the areas with gly and 24d. Yesterday came back and burned them off and then raked them out a bit. Broadcasted clover. I know its late, but really wanted to try and get something done, especially with rain forecasted for last night, today and Tuesday.
Hopefully 3 or so days of rain and cooler temps this week will be in my favor. Looks like its supposed to rain again this weekend. Worst case it doesnt produce and I'll try a fall planting. At the very least I would think a little something would grow? And its plot areas are cleared off now and ready for a fall planting if need be.
Two plots, one is a a little open sliver in the timber thats maybe a tenth of an acre and then about a 1/4 acre that is in a field corner pocket.
Hopefully 3 or so days of rain and cooler temps this week will be in my favor. Looks like its supposed to rain again this weekend. Worst case it doesnt produce and I'll try a fall planting. At the very least I would think a little something would grow? And its plot areas are cleared off now and ready for a fall planting if need be.
Two plots, one is a a little open sliver in the timber thats maybe a tenth of an acre and then about a 1/4 acre that is in a field corner pocket.
Might just work if you are getting the heavy rain!
If that doesn’t work I’d load it down with buckwheat right before a rain. Might do that anyway as a place holder/weed suppressor. Heck dump a few pounds of cheap rape, pasja forage from Welters in too…. Some clover will make it and seed it again this fall.
I really like some Alsike clover in the mix in that situation if you are doing white clover, tolerates edge shade and ph a little more. Then hammer it hard around Labor Day with HEAVY rye grain and a smorgasbord of red, Alsike, ladino and whatever else. Hit it with cheap purple tops and rape. 400# per acre of the lime that is on sale right now at Blains. (I’d do that now if you can). I look at it that a its a small plot so a few extra pounds of $4 a pound seed from Welters isn’t going to break the bank…
If that doesn’t work I’d load it down with buckwheat right before a rain. Might do that anyway as a place holder/weed suppressor. Heck dump a few pounds of cheap rape, pasja forage from Welters in too…. Some clover will make it and seed it again this fall.
I really like some Alsike clover in the mix in that situation if you are doing white clover, tolerates edge shade and ph a little more. Then hammer it hard around Labor Day with HEAVY rye grain and a smorgasbord of red, Alsike, ladino and whatever else. Hit it with cheap purple tops and rape. 400# per acre of the lime that is on sale right now at Blains. (I’d do that now if you can). I look at it that a its a small plot so a few extra pounds of $4 a pound seed from Welters isn’t going to break the bank…
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Bucksnbears
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I will NEVER plant Imperial Whitetail clover again!.
Planted it about a year ago, it came up great and it looked fantastic all summer/ fall.
Now, it looks like crap. Very thin plot and weeds are taking over.
Will get some good Ladino seed and try broadcasting it in.
Planted it about a year ago, it came up great and it looked fantastic all summer/ fall.
Now, it looks like crap. Very thin plot and weeds are taking over.
Will get some good Ladino seed and try broadcasting it in.
scottonbuck
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Hopefully the residuals of the 2-4D wont kill your clover when it sprouts. Depends how heavy of an application you applied to the plot.
That’s because most of imperial is berseem, an annual. Gone after a year. It’s a low cost seed that gives great first year growth. Great way for them to make big $ & cut back on perennials
I actually did just seed a tiny section of clover. I did some dirt work & had a 1/4 acre to patch up. I drilled clover & oats. Oats will hold it & jump up & be just fine. I think I put in berseem, crimson, balansa, Alice white, red & alsike. The buckwheat is another great idea too. I didn’t think of that one but will try that next time
Snail3496
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This^ - Could even include some brassicas in the fall mix. Clover will be so thick and lush the following spring you'll be amazed