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skyleralan said:
Mine got "water logged". They are fairly young since they only went in Aug. 11, but standing water in places has me worried!
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I have some that were doing pretty decent but could use some sun, they are located on bottom ground that is wet after all the rain the last couple weeks. Hopefully they will rebound. The plots on higher ground look great
 
August 31, 2014

I'm able to answer email via my eye gaze computer so shoot me an email if you have questions dbltree2000@yahoo.com
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Jess notill drilled oats and annual clover following brassicas this past spring and this is what it looked like a couple weeks before planting the rye mix



White flowers are berseem red is crimson




Annual clovers have the potential to fix in excess of 100# nitrogen per acre which is enough to provide the rye mix with all it's nitrogen needs.




The killed clovers will slowly release nitrogen as the plant's break down, perfect to feed the winter rye, oats and forage radish. The winter peas, hairy vetch and red clover will fix nitrogen for next years brassicas



Using legumes to provide nitrogen for our crops is a no brainer because we save money, time and the hassle of hauling and spreading urea.



Clovers provide whitetails with 20-25% protein which is more then they are capable of using and keeps them from wandering.
We are still planting the rye mix due to non stop rainfall but there is plenty of time yet.



Plant ALL in one plot in strips or blocks

Alice, Kopu II, Durana (or comparable) white clover 10% of plot, sow at 6#'s per acre with the rye combination in the fall or in the spring with oats and berseem clover. Correct Ph and P&K with soil tests

Brassicas in 45% of plot

Purple Top Turnips 3#
Dwarf Essex Rape 2#
GroundHog Forage radish 5#

Plant in mid to late July in most Midwest states, or 60-90 days before your first killing frost, Use 200#'s of 46-0-0 urea and 400#'s of 6-28-28 per acre. Follow the dead brassicas with oats and berseem or crimson clover in mid spring at 60#'s oats and 12-15#'s berseem clover and/or crimson and/or 50#'s of chickling vetch)

Cereal Grain combo in 45% of plot...we use 50# each rye, oats and peas along with radish and clover seed all planted in half of each feeding area

Winter rye 50-80#'s per acre (56#'s = a bushel)
Spring oats 50-120#'s per acre (32#'s = a bushel)
Frostmaster Winter Peas or 4010/6040 Forage peas 20-80#'s per acre

Red Clover 8-12#'s per acre or white clover at 6#'s per acre (or 20-40 pounds hairy vetch and 20-30#'s crimson clover on sandy soils)
Groundhog Forage Radish 5#'s per acre

Plant in late August to early September, if following well fertilized brassicas use 100 - 200#'s of urea, if starting a new plot add 400#'s of 6-28-28 but for best results soil test and add only what is necessary.

Rotate the brassicas and rye combo each year
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Made a trip to our SE Ohio farm this weekend to plant the rye mix, our brassicas we planted on August 3rd looked great, but the deer aren't waiting for cooler weather to enjoy them. The same thing happened last year to us, by 1st week of nov. the brassicas basically looked like dirt plots with bulbs.. Last year we tried planting the rye mix and brassicas at the same date hoping the oats would get majority of the grazing but they didn't bother them to much so the oats made it to maturity... Maybe the young popping oats will draw them off of the turnips in a few weeks but only time will tell
 
That's to early to plant the rye mix and that is why you need white clover around the perimeter

Make sure you fertilize heavily to increase yield ;)
 
I think it's just a lack of commercial crops in the area and deer density . We have the 10% of perennial clover strips in that main plot area and we had an additional 1 1/2 acres in the summer crimson mix until this past weekend which both have got attention, But they still went after the 3-4 week old turnips. I did top dress with more urea on Saturday and lucked into 3/4" of rain that night and Sunday. So hoping they get the boost they need to help keep up with the deer
 
I have a bunch of these in my brassica plot. I don't know what kind of weed it is but they are scattered all through it. About a foot taller then anything else.
 
brassica growth

I was wondering how far along my brassicas should be? They germinated 3to 4 weeks
ago. They are 12 to 14 inches tall. The purple tops are the size of a golfball and under.

Good rain since germination.
This is my first official brassica plot so I am not familiar with growth rate.
Do I need to add some fertilizer?
Thanks
 
EatSleepHunt said:
I was wondering how far along my brassicas should be? They germinated 3to 4 weeks
ago. They are 12 to 14 inches tall. The purple tops are the size of a golfball and under.

Good rain since germination.
This is my first official brassica plot so I am not familiar with growth rate.
Do I need to add some fertilizer?
Thanks
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It sound's like they are doing great! You can topdress urea if wish but may not be necessary, talking rain tonight so it's a great time to get some on.
 
Paul I may have killed mine. Sprayed grass with 8oz/acre clethodim. Was doing great a week ago. That or may have to top dress with urea.
 
dbltree said:
Clethodim won't harm them, crop oil might burn them temporarily. Pictures would be helpful
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No crop oil.
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I have one plot that gets over run by button weeds when it comes to the brassica portion of the rotation. The brassicas come up looking great then die out when the button weeds come up and shade them out. Is manually pulling them my only option here?
 
showstopper said:
I have one plot that gets over run by button weeds when it comes to the brassica portion of the rotation. The brassicas come up looking great then die out when the button weeds come up and shade them out. Is manually pulling them my only option here?
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I had a brassica plot like that last year. Mowing them high helped, alot.
 
I urea they look pretty yellow, have they had to much water? Clethodim won't hurt broadleaves unless you had something else in your sprayer?

Velvetleaf is everywhere yet we have never had a problem with it or any other broadleaf weeds for that matter, not sure what we are doing different?
 
I'm going up to the farm tmrw to pick the velvet leaf. I pulled some the other day and it came up easy, it's just tedious. Other then that my plot looks great!
 
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