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2 changes this year…
1) ran polymer coated urea. Slower releasing as I’ve seen some petering-out of N in July/August & I don’t like to side or top dress.
2) tried Surestart II herbicide. 3 groups of herbicides in that mix. can use it pre & post. Trying it 3 ways: 1) I burnt down with it + gly/2,4-d. 2) did a one pass in one area and added atrazine & mesotrione & 3) I burnt 3rd area down with gly, 2,4-d & atrazine & mesotrine.. I’ll add surestart II on 2nd pass.
I always plan on 2 pass & any combo will be just fine. I am trying to see if i can reliably find a true one pass spray. Is someone gonna do 7 things in one mix like this lunatic? No. But I’m trying it. Gly (& ams), 2,4-d, surestart II, atrazine & mesotrione.
Anyone can buy all of this - just sub simazine for atrazine is only restricted one.
Should be nuclear and some areas i just tiled that were wet with bad cocklebur seed bank. Dry but want to knock out big weed seeds!

Anyways- Always something new to try/learn.

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Sligh1 said:
2 changes this year…
1) ran polymer coated urea. Slower releasing as I’ve seen some petering-out of N in July/August & I don’t like to side or top dress.
2) tried Surestart II herbicide. 3 groups of herbicides in that mix. can use it pre & post. Trying it 3 ways: 1) I burnt down with it + gly/2,4-d. 2) did a one pass in one area and added atrazine & mesotrione & 3) I burnt 3rd area down with gly, 2,4-d & atrazine & mesotrine.. I’ll add surestart II on 2nd pass.
I always plan on 2 pass & any combo will be just fine. I am trying to see if i can reliably find a true one pass spray. Is someone gonna do 7 things in one mix like this lunatic? No. But I’m trying it. Gly (& ams), 2,4-d, surestart II, atrazine & mesotrione.
Anyone can buy all of this - just sub simazine for atrazine is only restricted one.
Should be nuclear and some areas i just tiled that were wet with bad cocklebur seed bank. Dry but want to knock out big weed seeds!

Anyways- Always something new to try/learn.

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Gly, 24d, and Acuron at time of planting. Truly one pass. Acuron is 4 things so spraying 6 things at once.

Acuron: ATRAZINE, MESOTRIONE, BICYCLOPYRONE, S-METOLACHLOR.

I have corn fields that are still pretty clean. It's almost too good. My seed salesman has had guys who sprayed acuron too heavy and had bean issues the following year. Scary good. Corn was sooooooo clean last year. Why i say corn is easier than beans.

Downside. Expensive.
 
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IowaBowHunter1983 said:
Gly, 24d, and Acuron at time of planting. Truly one pass. Acuron is 4 things so spraying 6 things at once.

Acuron: ATRAZINE, MESOTRIONE, BICYCLOPYRONE, S-METOLACHLOR.

I have corn fields that are still pretty clean. It's almost too good. My seed salesman has had guys who sprayed acuron too heavy and had bean issues the following year. Scary good. Corn was sooooooo clean last year. Why i say corn is easier than beans.

Downside. Expensive.
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Ya- bicyclopyrone is the key there. What makes Acuron unique. I didn’t get by with acuron in my wet areas. But- possibly nothing will…. Just needed tile. Acuron is great. & if it saves time & second pass - especially for plots- who cares about the cost. It is great stuff.
If someone wanted to be “crazy” sure… acuron + surestart II would be 10000000% a one pass in any scenario. ;) maybe not legal so I didn’t say that. That would be: atrazine, mesotrione, metolachlor, acetolachlor, bicyclopyrone, Flumet & clopyralid - slight overlap with groups but could adjust rates. No one is gonna do this but it could be incredibly good combo.
I do like a lot of modes of action. iowa soil & weather Degrades herbicides far faster than any label interval I’ve ever read.
 
IowaBowHunter1983 said:
Gly, 24d, and Acuron at time of planting. Truly one pass. Acuron is 4 things so spraying 6 things at once.

Acuron: ATRAZINE, MESOTRIONE, BICYCLOPYRONE, S-METOLACHLOR.

I have corn fields that are still pretty clean. It's almost too good. My seed salesman has had guys who sprayed acuron too heavy and had bean issues the following year. Scary good. Corn was sooooooo clean last year. Why i say corn is easier than beans.

Downside. Expensive.
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Is it best if done at time of planting or do you get the same results if you wait 2-3 weeks?
I bought some acuron this year but this will be my first go round with it.
 
IowaBowHunter1983 said:
Gly, 24d, and Acuron at time of planting. Truly one pass. Acuron is 4 things so spraying 6 things at once.

Acuron: ATRAZINE, MESOTRIONE, BICYCLOPYRONE, S-METOLACHLOR.

I have corn fields that are still pretty clean. It's almost too good. My seed salesman has had guys who sprayed acuron too heavy and had bean issues the following year. Scary good. Corn was sooooooo clean last year. Why i say corn is easier than beans.

Downside. Expensive.
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If all pre, seems like a good nongmo corn recipe.. ??
 
Bassattackr said:
If all pre, seems like a good nongmo corn recipe.. ??
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100%. No problem at all. Even if u wanted to run a second pass on non-gmo… u have infinite options…. 2,4-d, atrazine, mesotrione, prowl, metolachlor/acetolachlor, etc etc. Or the cocktails like acuron, etc. Plenty of post emergent killing ability too… Metolachlor kills grasses, atrazine knocks a list of things out, same with meso. 2,4-d hits broadleaves, etc.
 
I got my corn planter finished the day after a 1.75” rain. Been raining off and on ever since and I can’t get in the field! Good problem for us right now. I am using g leftover corn from a local farmer. Is there a “too late” date for a corn food plot? Also got my Acuron in the mail yesterday, but same as above I can’t get in to spray…


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T_Max said:
I got my corn planter finished the day after a 1.75” rain. Been raining off and on ever since and I can’t get in the field! Good problem for us right now. I am using g leftover corn from a local farmer. Is there a “too late” date for a corn food plot? Also got my Acuron in the mail yesterday, but same as above I can’t get in to spray…


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I have planted a corn plot mid June a couple times and they were just fine. Far from time to panic.
 
T_Max said:
I got my corn planter finished the day after a 1.75” rain. Been raining off and on ever since and I can’t get in the field! Good problem for us right now. I am using g leftover corn from a local farmer. Is there a “too late” date for a corn food plot? Also got my Acuron in the mail yesterday, but same as above I can’t get in to spray…


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Agree with Nrharris…. Plenty of time. Even ag corn… early may is just fine.
U have 2 issues with later planted corn… the roll of the dice it gets dry weather when filling out & missing some of the early season rain. 2nd: it won’t dry down as much. So- u couldn’t combine as early - which is a NON ISSUE since it’s a deer plot.
I agree- for a plot- June planted corn will still yield.
 
I sprayed gly, 24d, liberty Athem Maxx and atrazine. Did last year too with good results. Good being 1 pass.
Told my neighbor buddy that I was spraying Anthem Maxx, apparently there is a national shortage and its like $500/gallon this year. Luckily I bought plenty couple years back and it has lasted awhile. Should have bought stock in it by the sounds of it. Use rate is low @ 4 oz to the acre. I like it alot because you can spray on corn and beans.
 
deep woods goat hunter said:
I sprayed gly, 24d, liberty Athem Maxx and atrazine. Did last year too with good results. Good being 1 pass.
Told my neighbor buddy that I was spraying Anthem Maxx, apparently there is a national shortage and its like $500/gallon this year. Luckily I bought plenty couple years back and it has lasted awhile. Should have bought stock in it by the sounds of it. Use rate is low @ 4 oz to the acre. I like it alot because you can spray on corn and beans.
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Pic for entertainment, this was a week ago.
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Snail3496 said:
What's the idea behind adding liberty and 24D? Some weeds building 24D tolerance? I haven't encountered any broadleaf that 24D wont nuke but I'm sure they exist.
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I sprayed some bind weed in the driveway a little over a week ago with 2-4d. They look bad, but those suckers look like they wanna hang on. I hate that stuff…


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I put down Acuron today. I shook it up first. That stuff looks, smells, and even sounds like it’s gonna kill stuff. Like a light green spoiled milkshake…


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T_Max said:
I put down Acuron today. I shook it up first. That stuff looks, smells, and even sounds like it’s gonna kill stuff. Like a light green spoiled milkshake…


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Acuron is the bomb!! Love it. Started using it first year it came out - maybe 5-6 years ago. I deal with a few difficult weeds, wet spots & I do change things up to break resistance - only reason I get away from it. Plus I like trying new things. U gonna love it.
 
Sligh1 said:
1) Do not work the ground.
2) sooner u can get p&k down the better. Just so it’s able to break down. Winter freeze/thaw helps there. If u have taken great care of soil in past- probably no big deal and do it at time of planting with urea.
3) get your pre-emergent herbicides really dialed in. Acuron for example. Have a post emergent cocktail ready for second pass (likely needed)…. 2,4-d, atrazine or simazine, metolachlor or acetolachlor & a few other options.
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Got some water hemp marestail on in a few spots , I'm good to go with 24d post emerge correct , going add some simazine , I used resicore and simazine pre it's working pretty well so far and lots of rain .


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Jbohn said:
Got some water hemp marestail on in a few spots , I'm good to go with 24d post emerge correct , going add some simazine , I used resicore and simazine pre it's working pretty well so far and lots of rain .


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If it was me, I would rather use dicamba than 24d.
 
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